What happens when we replace x with x+1 in a quadratic function?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of replacing x with x+1 in the quadratic function f(x) = 16000 + 50x + 0.2x^2. Participants explore the algebraic manipulation involved in this transformation and its implications on the function's graph, including potential shifts in the vertex of the parabola.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the quadratic function and attempts to calculate the result of substituting x with x+1, expressing uncertainty about the algebraic steps involved.
  • Another participant suggests that the original poster should work through the problem independently, implying that self-discovery is valuable.
  • A subsequent reply confirms that the original poster's initial steps are correct but points out an error in the third step of their calculation.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the distributive property of multiplication over addition, with an example applied to the function.
  • Another participant expresses a need to improve their algebra skills and presents a revised answer, indicating confusion about the correct form of the function after substitution.
  • One participant introduces the concept of completing the square, explaining how substituting x with x+1 affects the vertex of the parabola, suggesting that it shifts the curve one unit to the left.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the final form of the function after substitution, as participants present differing interpretations and calculations. Some participants agree on the correctness of initial steps, while others challenge specific algebraic manipulations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence in their algebra skills, and there are unresolved mathematical steps in the calculations presented. The discussion reflects a mix of correct and incorrect algebraic reasoning without a definitive resolution.

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Too bad I've forgot how to do this though. I'll paste the problem:

f(x) = 16000 + 50x + 0.2x^2

What happens if x = x+1 (increase by one)?

I believe it's something like this:

50(x + 1) + 0.2(x+1)^2 ->
50x + 50 + 0.2(x^2 + 2x1 + 1^2) ->
50x + 50 + 0.2x^2 + 0.2x + 0.2 ->
(I'm not sure about the next step because of my bad algebra skills): Possibly ->
50.2x + 50.2 + 0.2x^2
or
50x + 50.2 + 0.4x^2

Could anybody please help?
Thanks. :)
 
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Not to be mean or anything, but it would be best if you found out by yourself... something like this is better not answered by others.
 
Well, sure. But could you tell me if I was at least thinking correctly?
 
Yes you were. Look up for "distributive law" on google to get more insight.
 
okunyg said:
Too bad I've forgot how to do this though. I'll paste the problem:

f(x) = 16000 + 50x + 0.2x^2

What happens if x = x+1 (increase by one)?

I believe it's something like this:

50(x + 1) + 0.2(x+1)^2 ->
50x + 50 + 0.2(x^2 + 2x1 + 1^2) ->
50x + 50 + 0.2x^2 + 0.2x + 0.2 ->
(I'm not sure about the next step because of my bad algebra skills): Possibly ->
50.2x + 50.2 + 0.2x^2
or
50x + 50.2 + 0.4x^2

Could anybody please help?
Thanks. :)

The first 2 lines are correct. However, the 3rd is not.

Ok, I am pretty sure that you have covered the distributive property of multiplication over addition, right?
It goes like this:
a . (b1 + b2 + b3 + ... + bn) = a.b1 + a.b2 + ... + abn

Ok, in your problem, we have:
50 (x + 1) + 0.2 (x2 + 2x + 1)

Apply the above property, we have:
... = 50x + 50 + 0.2 x2 + 0.2 * 2 x + 0.2
= 50x + 50 + 0.2 x2 + 0.4 x + 0.2

I believe you can take it from here. :)
 
I really, really need to brush up on my algebra.

50x+50 + 0.2x^2 + 0.4x + 0.2

I believe the correct answer was 50.2 + 0.4x. I can't look in my book since a friend borrowed it.

50.4x+50.2 + 0.2x^2 is my answer

I'm not able to solve it. Could you do me a favor and help me out a little? I'm not actually studying math at the moment, I'm just playing around, thus my knowledge is at a bad state.
 
You might also try putting it in standard form: [tex]y=a(x-h)^{2}+k[/tex] where [tex](h,k)[/tex] is the vertex of the parabola. Then, replacing [tex]x[/tex] by [tex]x+1[/tex] simply shifts the curve 1 unit to the left (ie, decreases [tex]h[/tex] by 1). The process is called completing the square.

[tex]f(x) = 16000 + 50x + 0.2x^2[/tex]

[tex]5f(x) = 80000 + 250x + x^2[/tex]

[tex]5f(x) = 80000 - 15625 + 15625 + 250x + x^2[/tex]

[tex]5f(x) = 80000 - 15625 + (x + 125)^2[/tex]

[tex]5f(x) = 64375 + (x + 125)^2[/tex]

[tex]f(x) = 0.2(x + 125)^2 + 12875[/tex]

So, the vertex is [tex](-125, 12875)[/tex]. Replacing [tex]x[/tex] by [tex]x+1[/tex], we get:

[tex]f(x + 1) = 0.2(x + 126)^2 + 12875[/tex]

which has a vertex of [tex](-126, 12875)[/tex], one unit to the left of the original.

The nice thing about this method is that you can replace [tex]x[/tex] with [tex]x + anything[/tex] and it's already simplified.
 
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