What Happens When You're Kicked Out of Heaven?

[Cyrus]

That does not matter. I just met her. Shes not my GF, and I don't have a ring on my finger. I go out to socialize. Just because I got her number does not mean she will take my call the next day, or that if she does it will work out, so why should I limit myself to talking to only her for the night?

Besides, the place is too packed. And if I turn around, I can promise you some other guy is already talking to her.

 

[Evo]

Where I used to go dancing, people danced on walls. It was known for that. I only got talked into that once.

That does not matter. I just met her. Shes not my GF, and I don't have a ring on my finger. I go out to socialize. Just because I got her number does not mean she will take my call the next day, or that if she does it will work out, so why should I limit myself to talking to only her for the night?

Besides, the place is too packed. And if I turn around, I can promise you some other guy is already talking to her.

I was just curious about how you get a girl to give you her number so quickly. I was very reluctant to give out my number, the guy usually would have to hit it off well enough with me after several hours at least before I would even consider it.

 

[SpaceTiger]

I'll show this to my wife and see how she reacts. Better yet, I'll mail it in. I hope your passport is in order.

I think cyrus' irony detector needs a little repair.

In my experience, women don't care as much what you say as how you say it. If you approach her with confidence and make her feel comfortable, she'll respond well, regardless of what you say (short of insulting her, of course).

For the record, I've never actually used a cheesy pickup line on a complete stranger and I really wasn't expecting people to take me as seriously as they did. My actual "techniques" are similar to what Astronuc described, though I'm sure I've said some really crazy things to girls I later ended up with. Some girls respond well to a goofy sense of humor.

 

[Moonbear]

Do you know how many times really good looking girls hear those stupid one liners from guys at bars all the time?

Actually, that's not true at all. Guys never use them, because they all think the same as you do. The ones who are a bit daring and funny will do it because they know they can pull it off and get a laugh.

I don't know what your wife looks like, or where you live. If you live in a big city and go to a hot bar/club with lots of 'hip' people, that line shows that you're a chump w/out any personality. You can try and see how far it gets you if you want, I wouldn't use it. Ever.

That's because those so-called "hip" people in "hot" clubs are a bunch of superficial snobs who wouldn't know a decent guy if he bit them on the behind (well, actually, THAT might get their attention ). Just being in a place like that shows you have no personality and just follow the crowd and care more about appearances than substance. If you want to meet lots of people who will never amount to anything, that's a great place to start looking. If you'd like an actually relationship to develop, there's no point wasting time in a place like that.

It's after the dance, if you didn't come across as creepy, you start talking.

I've never had a guy get my number and then notice him moving on to another girl. How do girls react to this?

That would be pretty strange. Do they actually answer the phone and talk to you after that? First off, I don't just give my number to a guy until we've had a nice evening of conversation after the dance...if he just wants to score a bunch of numbers and not get to know me, he can move on to the next person without mine. If I then saw him move along to another group of women and start getting numbers from them too, then I'd know he was nothing but a player and if he bothered to call, he'd get nothing but a quick "don't bother calling again" and I'd hang up. No point wasting time on a player.

 

[Moonbear]

Where I go, you don't even need to ask that. Once a night the women line up and the men grab the first one on line and dance her around the floor. When he reaches the front of the line again, he thanks his partner, let's her go and takes the current first one on line. A single waltz will get you 3 women easy and not every woman gets to the front of the line. For those of you saying 'eeeuw, a waltz' I remind you that with a waltz, you are halfway to first base and haven't even insulted her yet.

Wow, that's cool! I wish there was something like that around here. Actually, that was something I was thinking about just last week, wondering if there's a place around here for ballroom dancing (preferably with lessons before the main dance so us novices can learn a few things and then test them out). All I can find for dance lessons are places for little kids to learn ballet and tap dance, nothing for grownups to learn ballroom dancing. But, maybe there's something offered by some community center or the university rec center that I just haven't found yet. I think that would be a cool way to meet a guy too (and at least I know he'll dance with me if I find him dancing...I'm not interested in a guy who just wants to look "cool" standing or sitting around watching everyone else dance, I am perfectly happy being "uncool" by being the first on and last off the dance floor).

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

Actually, that was something I was thinking about just last week, wondering if there's a place around here for ballroom dancing (preferably with lessons before the main dance so us novices can learn a few things and then test them out).

That describes the Stardust Ballroom. I think they're all called that, with perhaps a Crystal Ballroom or two thrown in for effect. My wife and I are rank beginners and the lessons they provide tend to be beyond our capacity. Actually, it got torn down a few months ago and so was lost the nicest hardwood floor you could imagine. It had been attached to the concrete floor in such a way that it could not be salvaged. Oh, well. The organizer of the dances said she would reconstitute them in another location starting September, but it hasn't happened yet. In nearby Phila, there is a dance that concentrates on swing only, but we haven't been yet.

All I can find for dance lessons are places for little kids to learn ballet and tap dance, nothing for grownups to learn ballroom dancing.

I found the same here until I noticed that the community college was offering a course in the adult continuing education program. Our teacher was quite good. I have since found out that Phila has several dance academies teaching ballroom dancing. Arthur Murray studios still exist, but I don't if there's one near you. They have a web site.

 

[Evo]

Moonbear, take up Polka dancing, you get to wear one of those great outfits and listen to accordian music.

 

[Cyrus]

That's because those so-called "hip" people in "hot" clubs are a bunch of superficial snobs who wouldn't know a decent guy if he bit them on the behind (well, actually, THAT might get their attention ). Just being in a place like that shows you have no personality and just follow the crowd and care more about appearances than substance. If you want to meet lots of people who will never amount to anything, that's a great place to start looking. If you'd like an actually relationship to develop, there's no point wasting time in a place like that.

Mmm, that's a generalization if I ever heard one. For instance, on one night I met one girl that was A grad student in Persian Studies, and another one who was a grad student in Middle Eastern Affairs. So, I don't know where your getting this from. Its a grab bag of people from all walks of life.

That would be pretty strange. Do they actually answer the phone and talk to you after that? First off, I don't just give my number to a guy until we've had a nice evening of conversation after the dance...if he just wants to score a bunch of numbers and not get to know me, he can move on to the next person without mine. If I then saw him move along to another group of women and start getting numbers from them too, then I'd know he was nothing but a player and if he bothered to call, he'd get nothing but a quick "don't bother calling again" and I'd hang up. No point wasting time on a player.

Why do you assume that the person does not want to get to know you? Thats the entire reason why I asked you for your number! I don't want to get to know you in a loud club and say "whatttttttt?" "Huhhhhhhhhhh?" "I can't hear you?" I want to met people there first, get to know you someplace else.

 

[Moonbear]

Mmm, that's a generalization if I ever heard one. For instance, on one night I met one girl that was A grad student in Persian Studies, and another one who was a grad student in Middle Eastern Affairs. So, I don't know where your getting this from. Its a grab bag of people from all walks of life.

And have you talked to either since then? Doesn't do much good if all you're doing is chit-chatting for a little while and then moving on and never talk to them again. Besides, intelligence and superficiality are not mutually exclusive characteristics. Actually, it makes perfect sense among grad students who don't have time for a relationship, so just go out for a night to a club and flirt and nothing comes of it.

Why do you assume that the person does not want to get to know you? Thats the entire reason why I asked you for your number! I don't want to get to know you in a loud club and say "whatttttttt?" "Huhhhhhhhhhh?" "I can't hear you?" I want to met people there first, get to know you someplace else.

Because you specifically said you'd move along as soon as you got the number and start talking to the next woman. Why would I assume you're doing anything other than just collecting numbers to add a few notches on your bedpost? If you're getting numbers from every woman you meet, then you're NOT interested in ME, you're just interested in getting numbers. If all you want are dates that never lead to relationships, sure, you'll pick up some of those that way, but if you want to find someone for a relationship, they're not going to be interested in the player who will probably cheat on them right from the start...that's how it looks if you're indiscriminately collecting phone numbers.

 

[Cyrus]

And have you talked to either since then? Doesn't do much good if all you're doing is chit-chatting for a little while and then moving on and never talk to them again. Besides, intelligence and superficiality are not mutually exclusive characteristics. Actually, it makes perfect sense among grad students who don't have time for a relationship, so just go out for a night to a club and flirt and nothing comes of it.

If nothing comes of it its because you didnt click. You can't find that out though until you call her the next day and spend time with her. Unless you have long boring conversations at bars about your entire life.

Because you specifically said you'd move along as soon as you got the number and start talking to the next woman. Why would I assume you're doing anything other than just collecting numbers to add a few notches on your bedpost?

Well, your going out to a social gathering. Dont be surprised that people are going to socialize after they talked with you.

If you're getting numbers from every woman you meet, then you're NOT interested in ME, you're just interested in getting numbers.

If I were not interested in you, I wouldn't even acknowledge you with a hi.

If all you want are dates that never lead to relationships, sure, you'll pick up some of those that way, but if you want to find someone for a relationship, they're not going to be interested in the player who will probably cheat on them right from the start...that's how it looks if you're indiscriminately collecting phone numbers.

Do you think I go up to people and say "Hi, what's your name can I have your phone number? Thanks bye!"

 

[SpaceTiger]

If I were not interested in you, I wouldn't even acknowledge you with a hi.

Just for the record, we're not all like this.

Let's try to get back to the main topic, this thread was supposed to be for fun, not bragging or bickering.

 

[Huckleberry]

Hey, this could be fun! Why stick with the traditional, cliche pick-up lines? If I'm going to bomb then I'm going to go down in a huge ball of flames. Might as well have fun with a little objective chaos.

"If you were in a zombie flick would you be one of the zombies or one of the few survivors with no hope left for humanity?"

Discuss the difference between slow and fast zombies and the types of fear that they inspire. Fast zombies inspire panic, action without thought, quick panning and disorientating camera changes. It's terror. Slow zombies inspire that deep sense of dread. They give you time to think about how you are eventually going to run out of bullets and hiding places and then they will overpower you with sheer numbers, but not before snacking on your friends and turning them against you when you least expect it. It's horror. Which is actually more frightening?

And when she says "get lost creep" respond with "Well, see if I invite you on my spaceship when the Alliance comes" and start singing the 'Firefly' theme song by Joss Whedon, complete with air banjo.

Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out to the black
Tell them I ain't comin' back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
There's no place I can be
Since I found Serenity
But you can't take the sky from me...

Then walk off into the next tequill sunrise and hope she doesn't have an eager, hormonal fanboy hanging around. But really, why would anyone want to be around a woman that doesn't like either zombies or Joss Whedon. Pfff.

 

[Evo]

I actually like cheesy pickup lines because anyone using them knows they're cheesy and is using them as a funny way to start a conversation. But the guy has to have the right personality to pull it off.

 

[big man]

Jesus mate! You're a right royal bastard. So unless you're "on the pul" you don't acknowledge women and can't even show them the slightest bit of respect? I guess you would'nt appear to be as cool as you clearly are though if you did that...

Just for the record I don't think anyone is arguing the fact that you socialise with other women throughout the night. It's the fact that you are insinuating that you flirt with every girl you meet when you're out and that you try and get several numbers in a night.

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

What timing. Here are two links from the msn main page:
Worst lines ever.
Lines that worked.

 

[NateTG]

Of the pick-up lines that I've heard of, the best to date is a printed business card with the following:
-----------------------------------------
Pick-Up Line Survey
Which of these is the worst pick-up line

• Did it hurt when you fell out of heaven?
• Nice shoes.
• Which of these is the worst pick-up...

Please fill out and return.
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Name and pic on the flip side, if you feel like it.

 

[turbo]

When I was in college, I had a friend from California who had this euphemism about having sex. We'd be hanging out and he's see some really attractive woman, and say "I'd love to fix her wagon!" We were at a pizza joint one night and one of the ladies in the next booth asked for something off our table (salt, pepper flakes, I forget now), and Ronnie grabbed it off the table and tossed it to her, and she missed the catch and spilled her beer. She jumped up, eyes flashing, pointed her finger at Ronnie and said "I'll fix your wagon, smart-a$$!" We both burst out laughing so hard we couldn't talk for a while and after drying our eyes, we had to explain why that statement was so funny. They came over to our booth and sat with us, and we had a great time. Nothing came of it, since they were both "spoken for", but it was a great ice-breaker, and they'd always say "hi" or wave as we saw one another on campus.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

There is only one pickup line that I have ever used: Eres muy bonita

It worked three times, which I think is the number of times that I used it.

"Do you promise not to steal anything" didn't work. I actually said this in jest to my future fiancé [never married her] when we first met, and only months later did I learn that she nearly left right then and there.

 

[Moonbear]

Of the pick-up lines that I've heard of, the best to date is a printed business card with the following:

I've actually been out to a club where a guy handed a card to one of the women I was out with. I was out with my sister and one of her friends, both of them are completely different personalities from me when it comes to approaches to dating, so it's probably a good indication that this is not a good method to meet women when we all had the same reaction to it. It would have been one thing if it was an actual business card he had and just jotted his home number on the back of it or something (afterall, how many people go out with paper and pencil, so short of writing on napkins or matchbooks, a business card works), but it was more of a personal calling card thing. So, we're just staring at this after he walks away, passing it back and forth, laughing in disbelief that it's NOT a business card, and that he obviously does this often enough to have put the forethought and expense into having cards with his name and home phone number printed on them. It wound up in the first trash bin we found. (And he had a fake name and phone number from my sister's friend. Told you we're different. I never played that game. If I wasn't interested in a guy, and he asked for my number, I told him no, and didn't waste anyone's time handing out fake numbers or giving fake names.)

 

[JasonRox]

And have you talked to either since then? Doesn't do much good if all you're doing is chit-chatting for a little while and then moving on and never talk to them again. Besides, intelligence and superficiality are not mutually exclusive characteristics. Actually, it makes perfect sense among grad students who don't have time for a relationship, so just go out for a night to a club and flirt and nothing comes of it.



Because you specifically said you'd move along as soon as you got the number and start talking to the next woman. Why would I assume you're doing anything other than just collecting numbers to add a few notches on your bedpost? If you're getting numbers from every woman you meet, then you're NOT interested in ME, you're just interested in getting numbers. If all you want are dates that never lead to relationships, sure, you'll pick up some of those that way, but if you want to find someone for a relationship, they're not going to be interested in the player who will probably cheat on them right from the start...that's how it looks if you're indiscriminately collecting phone numbers.

You can be interested in more than one person.

 

[JasonRox]

I agree with Cyrus on this whole issue.

You do bump into problems once and awhile. I went on a few dates with a girl and she seemed really intimidated by me or something. She thought I was probably a player, but really I'm not. She should have known I wasn't because of the fact that she became comfortable enough to share things with me that she couldn't share with her friends at home or ex-boyfriend!

Anyways, I was really interested and it basically ended. Other great girls around though, no worries.

PS. I never use pick up lines. I never introduce myself. I never buy drinks for girls. In fact, if I like a girl, I don't even ask her out anymore. I just say something like "We will hang out on Saturday." or like "We're hanging out on Saturday." or like "Where are you taking me out Saturday?"

Yeah, I'm bad sometimes.

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

Moonbear, you still there? Here is a site that has a link to all kinds of dancing in the Phila. area and more links to swing dancing in other cities. On Oct. 13, you'll find me in the Commodore Barry club with my squeeze. Good luck in your vicinity.

http://www.swingdance.org/