What Is a Dyadic? - Understanding What They Are & How To Use Them

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The discussion centers around the concept of dyadics, exploring their definition, operations, and applications. Participants express varying levels of understanding and seek clarification on the nature of dyadics, particularly in relation to vectors and tensors.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about dyadics, questioning whether they are merely a juxtaposition of two vectors without a clear operation or utility.
  • Another participant describes a dyadic as a tensor represented by the notation a^i b^j, suggesting that dyadics can form antisymmetric and symmetric tensors through specific operations.
  • A later reply elaborates that a dyadic can be expressed as v⊗w, indicating that they are bilinear and can span a vector space, leading to a matrix representation when coordinates are introduced.
  • This reply also mentions that the operation involved is matrix multiplication, framing dyadics within the context of linear algebra and tensor theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the understanding of dyadics, with some expressing confusion and others providing technical explanations. Multiple perspectives on the nature and utility of dyadics remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the lack of geometric interpretation for dyadics and the complexity involved in understanding their operations and applications in physics and mathematics.

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Simple discussion of a dyadic
Hello!

I have always had difficulty understanding dyadics.

The operation of two vectors, side by side, just seems weird.

I finally went to wikipedia and found this sentence:
A dyadic can be used to contain physical or geometric information, although in general there is no direct way of geometrically interpreting it.

So, with that, could someone explain what a dyadic is? Is is really just a juxataposition of two vectors to "organize" information? Is that all?

I am embarrased to say that I just do not see an "operation" here. I do not see what use they have.
 
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I think it is tensor written as
a^i b^j:=c^{ij}
where ##a^i## and ## b^j## are vectors.

Sum of these numbers such as antisymmetric tensor
a^i b^j-a^j b^i
symmetic tensor
a^i b^j+a^j b^i
are also tensors.
 
Trying2Learn said:
Summary:: Simple discussion of a dyadic

Hello!

I have always had difficulty understanding dyadics.

The operation of two vectors, side by side, just seems weird.

I finally went to wikipedia and found this sentence:
A dyadic can be used to contain physical or geometric information, although in general there is no direct way of geometrically interpreting it.

So, with that, could someone explain what a dyadic is? Is is really just a juxataposition of two vectors to "organize" information? Is that all?

I am embarrased to say that I just do not see an "operation" here. I do not see what use they have.
Have a read:
https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/what-is-a-tensor/

A dyadic is ##v\otimes w##. They are bilinear and span a vector space. If you introduce coordinates, then you get a matrix. A matrix of rank ##1##. The operation, in this case, is matrix multiplication, namely column ##(n,1)## times row ##(1,m).## This is the technical construction. And like any matrix, we can interpret it as a linear function and start with linear algebra. When physicists speak of tensors, they only mean more complicated vector spaces like tangent bundles.
 
Thank you, everyone

I forgot about this question (was intending to ask another), but this great. Thank you.
 

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