What is a "quantum potential" ?

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The discussion centers around the concept of "quantum potential" as referenced in a specific paper and a blog post by Brian Koberlein. Participants explore the implications of this concept in relation to the origins of the universe, particularly in the context of models that suggest the universe existed in a quantum potential state before the big bang.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references a paper suggesting that the universe existed as a quantum potential before collapsing into a hot dense state, likening the quantum potential to a body of water and the collapse to freezing.
  • Another participant suggests looking into "Bohmian mechanics" as a way to understand quantum potential.
  • A participant expresses frustration at not finding helpful information on quantum potential and seeks assistance.
  • Another participant shares an analogy where the universe is compared to a ping pong ball bouncing on water, creating ripples that affect its trajectory, indicating a continuous state until a collapse into the big bang.

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The discussion remains unresolved, with participants exploring different analogies and interpretations of quantum potential without reaching a consensus on its meaning or implications.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and seek clarification on the concept of quantum potential, indicating a need for more foundational knowledge in the area. The discussion includes references to specific models and analogies that may not be universally accepted or understood.

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I am asking that question having in mind the following paper: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269314009381

Now, reading Brian Koberlein blog, I saw his take on the model I've presented earlier.
https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/10/beginning/
In there, he says: "The model predicts that the universe had no beginning. It existed forever as a kind of quantum potential before “collapsing” into the hot dense state we call the big bang."

So I would like an explanation on what that means. Would I be wrong to say that the "quantum potential" can be conceptualized as a body of water and the "collapse" as that body of water freezing?
 
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To learn about quantum potential, google about "Bohmian mechanics".
 
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Unfortunately I had no luck. Perhaps someone could lend a hand?
 
Greetings. I had some luck and someone provided me with an analogy so I'm curious what you think of it.

Basically, in this paper the Universe is like a ping poll ball bouncing on water. Every time the ball bounces on water, it creates a ripple which changes the ball's trajectory when it hits the water again. In this paper, the "ball" has been bouncing infinitely into the past but at some point something caused it to stop bouncing and it "collapsed" into the hot dense state we call the "big-bang".
 

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