What is an intern supposed to do?

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The discussion revolves around the experiences of interns at a power plant, focusing on the nature of their tasks, learning opportunities, and the differences in internship experiences. Participants share their personal experiences and suggest ways to maximize learning during the internship.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with their internship, feeling it is more of a "picnic tour" rather than a learning experience, contrasting it with a previous internship that involved hands-on work.
  • Another participant shares a different experience, noting that their internships involved significant responsibility and were more job-like, suggesting that the intern should endure the remaining time.
  • A participant mentions that the level of responsibility and workload can vary significantly depending on the year of study, sharing an anecdote about a friend with a lighter workload at a nuclear plant.
  • One contributor notes that interns are often seen as too risky to assign significant tasks, leading to limited hands-on opportunities.
  • Another participant suggests that interns should take initiative to learn what they can, emphasizing the importance of asking questions and exploring different groups within the company.
  • Some participants recommend that interns seek opportunities to independently explore the plant and engage with engineers to enhance their learning experience.
  • There are suggestions for interns to start personal projects or analyses to demonstrate initiative and learning, even if the tasks seem unnecessary.
  • One participant highlights the unique opportunity of being in an operating plant, encouraging the intern to appreciate the access they have compared to the general public.
  • Another suggests following a technician for a day to gain practical experience and avoid being idle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express differing views on the nature of internships, with some advocating for taking initiative and exploring opportunities, while others acknowledge the limitations imposed by the companies. There is no consensus on what constitutes an ideal internship experience.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the nature of internships can vary widely based on company policies, the level of trust in interns, and the specific roles assigned. There are also references to varying levels of engagement based on the intern's year of study.

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I have been going to a power plant for over a month now. The Engineering Admin there allotted days for us for different departments. 2 weeks for boiler, 1 week for turbine section, 1 week for coal handling, a week for auxiliary units(air compressors, pumps, water treatment, ash handling etc), a week for water treatment(other than auxiliary), a week each for control & material management. So far i have been going to the divisional heads of allotted department. There he would tell us the theory part, which I have already studied(it takes about an hour), then he sends us with a foreman(or sometimes an engineer) to visit the site.

Then its like a joy ride. I must admit that things are pretty amazing there, for example a wagon tripper, the wagon is completely turned over to empty the coal(although inefficient, but its awesome), and the water treatment plant, it has a large cylindrical tank to store untreated water(about 20m in dia), & has a bridge which continuously rotates about the tank's axis, the bridge supports the scrapper & the stirrers etc etc..

But it is being more like a picnic tour. I am not really learning anything new. As the project, a report describing the whole plant is to be made, which is super stupid. Is it the way it is supposed to happen or can I do something more? Has anyone been to a power plant as an intern?

In my last intern, I was at an aircraft accessory overhauling shop for A320s, where we studied almost all of the system, we repaired few things ourselves(eg a brake assembly, few pumps, PTUs), we even installed a landing gear assembly(:mad:though we were not allowed to go to the main hanger, but anyways it was tooooo fun), we tested few units etc etc. In short, I actually learned a lot in my last training & I am already bored of this one & i have a month left :cry:
 
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My intern experience has been very different from yours. My internships were more like jobs rather than just tours or "this is how you do this". Myself and other interns carried a lot of responsibility and in many cases treated like the engineers and technicians. If I were you, I would just stick it out. You only have a month left and as long as your getting paid then I wouldn't complain to much.
 
What year are you in? I found that the level of trust and amount of work increased quite a bit between 3rd and 5th years. A friend of mine worked at a nuclear plant here in Ohio (the infamous Davis-Besse) and he had even less workload than you. He said that he spent the first two hours of the day doing the NY Times crossword.
 
this is my second internship. They say things are too risky there, they can't trust the interns to do the job. Its sort of a luck thing, if unfortunately something goes wrong, we(fortunately) get to go to the site & help in solving the problem. For example, water pipe leading to the water filter hopper beneath the furnace, choked, we went there with the site engineers & suggested solutions, pipe flange was tooo rusty, finally it was sheared off using a gas torch & new one was installed. the next time, an economizer coil leaked, so the entire unit was shut down & we went there, but we couldn't stay because it was over 5 then. It is one off sort of a thing.
So far things are going quiet smooth there, & we are killing time:zzz:
 
In the situation you're in, the onus is on you to learn what you can. There is only so much an employer can do with you. They can't put you on any long term projects (where the real learning is) and they can't just throw you to the dogs.

IMO, I think an intern should be assigned to a higher level engineer who basically allows them to follow them through their days and passes off some of their work load that is applicable and doable. Of course, every company is different.

There should be nothing preventing you from asking questions and looking into all of the groups involved. If anything, you get the experience of how another company works and what their engineers experience. That is valuable even if it is not technical knowledge.
 
FredGarvin said:
There should be nothing preventing you from asking questions and looking into all of the groups involved. If anything, you get the experience of how another company works and what their engineers experience. That is valuable even if it is not technical knowledge.

hmm so i guess we are on the right path:shy:
 
If there's nothing else to do, see if they'll allow you to wander around in the plant by yourself. Take a system drawing (a P&ID) and try to follow the piping around. Look at the valves and stuff. You'd be surprised by how many engineers there are working on things that he've never seen. If you have the opportunity to just see the equipment it is worthwhile in the long run.

I mostly work in an office environment now, and our interns get stuck with some real crap for work - tedious crap. You should consider yourself lucky to be in an operating plant.
 
Agreed gmax. If you can't find anything, take initiative. Let me be clear: employers value nearly nothing more than initiative. Start a weekly project monitoring something. Do analysis on things, that even though might be unnecessary. It shows that you're trying to learn, which is what you're there to do.
 
gmax137 said:
Look at the valves and stuff.

:!)i love those bigggg control valves, they actually need a geared drive to operate, & the bolt heads were actually bigger than my hand:bugeye:.

If there's nothing else to do, see if they'll allow you to wander around in the plant by yourself.
I went to the top to see the boiler drum(52 meters), it was real scary(i have slight vertigo)

Nowadays we are roaming around & asking engineers/foreman for details.
 
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that's it ank_gl -- think of it like this - they're letting you into the plant! If you had just pulled up to the front gate and asked to look around they would have sent you packing. But for the summer, they gave you a badge instead! See if it's OK to take pictures. You're seeing stuff and going places denied to most people (top of the boiler). I once had to do some work inside the main condenser - a weird place to be, with the turbine blades above and the tube bundle below. Not many people have been in there. And yes the unit was shutdown...
 
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It sounds like your uni guys, let out into the big bad world to have a look.
My advice is to ask the engineer if you can follow a technician round for a day and help him out.
Then you'll get into the heart of the plant aligning pumps, fixing pipe work, overhauling equipment.
The techs will look after you (you'll get alit of stick but its all good fun) Then you won't be sitting on your *** all day.
 

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