What is average deviation from expectation?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of average deviation from expectation in the context of a fair coin toss, as presented in "The Mathematics of Gambling." Participants explore the mathematical implications of expectation and variance related to independent random variables, particularly in relation to the binomial distribution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of average deviation from expectation and its relation to the standard deviation derived from the binomial distribution.
  • Another participant states that the expectation E(Y) is zero while E(Y^2) equals N, where Y represents the sum of independent random variables.
  • A participant challenges the approximation of E(Y^2) being equal to N, suggesting it should be N/4 based on the binomial distribution.
  • Another participant clarifies that the variance of the sum of independent random variables is the sum of their variances, asserting this holds true across various distributions and is not merely an approximation.
  • Discussion includes the normalization of win/loss outcomes to one unit per game, affecting the variance calculations.
  • A light-hearted comment is made regarding the average deviation, adding a humorous note to the discussion.

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Participants express differing views on the calculation of E(Y^2) and its implications, indicating that multiple competing interpretations exist regarding the average deviation from expectation and its mathematical representation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of terms used, particularly in relation to the binomial distribution and the normalization of outcomes. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the independence of random variables for variance calculations.

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In the book "The mathematic of Gambling", the author considers a fair coin with 50% getting head and 50% for tail. The expectation of such coin, of course, will be zero. Here is what I read from the text, it reads

Consider the fair game example mentioned earlier in the chapter (fair coin). In a series of any length, we have an expection of 0. In any such series it is possible to be ahead or behind. Your total profit or loss can be shown to have an average deviation from expectation of about [tex]\sqrt{N}[/tex].

Firstly, what is average deviation from expectation? How to get [tex]\sqrt{N}[/tex]? I am thinking the bionomial distribution with standard deviation [tex]\sqrt{N p (1-p)}[/tex] with p =0.5, it is about [tex]\sqrt{N}/2[/tex], is that what the author call average of deviation from expectation?
 
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Hi KFC, what they're referring to is that E(Y)=0 but E(Y^2)=N. Where Y is a sum of independent random variables each having mean=0 and varience=1.
 
uart said:
Hi KFC, what they're referring to is that E(Y)=0 but E(Y^2)=N. Where Y is a sum of independent random variables each having mean=0 and varience=1.

Thanks uart. So why E(Y^2)=N? I know it said it is an approximation. Should the exact value be E(Y^2)=N/4 according to binomial distribution.
 
For a sum of independent random variables the variance of the sum is equal to the sum of the variances. This true for all random variables no matter what the distribution, (binomial, normal, uniform etc), and its not an approximation. The only thing that is required is that they be independent.

For your binomial example the variance of each random variable is ( (1-0.5)^2 + (0-0.5)^2 )/2 = 0.25. So it follows that the variance of the sum of N such random variables is 0.25 N.

I assume that in the book you're reading they are normalizing the win/loss to one unit per game. That is, x=+1 for a win and x=-1 for a loss. So in this case the variance of X is ( (1-0)^2 + (-1-0)^2 )/2 = 1 and the variance of the sum of N such outcomes is equal to N.

BTW. Variance = E(X^2)
 
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"Just a little less than you expected."

I know it's not the math joke thread, but I had to do it.
 

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