What is Diebold's history of breaches and corruption in the voting industry?

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The discussion centers on Diebold's history of breaches and alleged corruption within the voting industry, particularly focusing on security flaws in their voting systems and the responses from election officials and the company itself. The scope includes concerns about electoral integrity, the reliability of electronic voting machines, and the implications of these issues for democracy.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern over Diebold's alleged corruption and the complacency of the electorate regarding security flaws in their voting systems.
  • Ion Sancho, an election official, is cited for his independent study revealing critical security flaws in Diebold's systems, which were later confirmed by other studies.
  • Participants mention that Diebold has breached contracts with election officials, specifically in Leon County, and has been accused of smearing those who report on their failures.
  • Some participants argue that the allegations against Diebold and the findings of Black Box Voting are dismissed as conspiracy theories, questioning the legitimacy of the claims made by critics.
  • Others highlight that independent testing has replicated findings of vulnerabilities in Diebold's systems, suggesting a pattern of negligence or corruption within the company.
  • There are references to ongoing news reports about corruption and security issues related to electronic voting, emphasizing the frequency of such allegations in the media.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the legitimacy of the claims against Diebold and the interpretation of the evidence presented. Some view the allegations as credible concerns about electoral integrity, while others dismiss them as unfounded conspiracy theories.

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Limitations include the reliance on various independent studies and reports, which may have differing methodologies and conclusions. The discussion also reflects a division in perspectives on the credibility of sources and the interpretation of evidence regarding voting system security.

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pattylou said:
(I wonder why he hasn't done that yet? Maybe he's still reading the PDF that was provided.)

The forum has been down for the last twelve hours or so. Plus, he could be doing other things, like moderating the engineering forum or moving into the house he just bought.

Either way, it might be nice to steer this thread away from the question of whether or not BBV hosts conspiracy theories and is to be trusted and back to the matter of Diebold breaching contract, which seemed to be the original point. A breach of contract is purely a factual matter and not exactly source-dependent. It either happened or it didn't, regardless of who reports it.
 
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You prompted me to look at today's news on this item.

Sancho (the election supervisor who facilitated the demonstration of the most recent hack into Diebold) was in the very hard position of needing to provide voting machines for the disabled ... and the three main vendors that the state had contracts with refused to work with him (breach of contract) because of what he revealed about the memory card hack.

He had found another vendor (IVS) but it wasn't clear if FL would allow him to go that route or not.

With a sigh of relief today's news reports that he can get the machines he needs from IVS.

Sancho gets OK to seek a deal

He came in prepared for a grilling, but embattled Elections Supervisor Ion Sancho left the Leon County Commission chambers Tuesday with a unanimous vote of confidence.

The commissioners gave Sancho a green light to pursue a deal with a Louisville, Ky.-based company to provide voting equipment for disabled people. The company, IVS, was the last option on the table that would make Leon County compliant with federal elections law come the September primaries.

The motion drew sighs of relief from more than a dozen Sancho supporters who had come to the workshop worried that Sancho would come under attack from certain commissioners for his failure to sign a contract for voting equipment for the disabled, a delay that has already cost the county about $500,000 in withheld state funding.

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Sancho received a similar vote of confidence from the commissioners, despite politically charged remarks and brinkmanship by several of them: County Commission Chairman Bill Proctor suggested the commissioners should be making its own contacts with elections systems companies; Commissioner Cliff Thaell, a Democrat, wanted to have the commissioners recognize Sancho as a hero for liberty - an idea that had many members of the public clapping thunderously; Commissioner Tony Grippa, a Republican, drew hisses from the audience when he called Thaell's comments "grandstanding" and asked the audience how many of them were Republicans.

http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060315/NEWS01/603150336/1010
 
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(p.s. I know I sound harsh, and I do apologise for that element of the discussion. I hold certain members of this forum to a high ethical and behavioral standard because they have good qualities - if someone is capable of making certain distinctions and/or concessions, then that is not a bad thing! It sounds trite, but these requests are actually a compliment of sorts. :) Also, as everyone knows, I feel very strongly about this issue, and I don't think that *anyone* could argue that ignoring it would make anything safer or better. Staying informed and being thorough and honest with ourselves is a better way to go.)
 

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