What is dy/dx and how does it relate to derivatives?

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dy/dx represents the derivative of a function y with respect to the variable x, indicating how y changes as x changes. It is crucial to understand that dy/dx is a function, while d/dx is the operator applied to a differentiable function. The terminology surrounding derivatives can be confusing; for instance, a differentiable function is one that can be differentiated, while the term "differential" refers to a different concept altogether. This discussion clarifies these distinctions and emphasizes the importance of precise mathematical language.

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the meaning of "dy/dx

Homework Statement


I am unsure of what dy/dx means when used in derivatives. However, I do know that it is called the derivative operator and have been told its the derivative of y relative to x, but could someone elaborate this for me?


Homework Equations


an example equation might be dy/dx = x2 + 4x + 4


The Attempt at a Solution


I have been told that its called the derivative operator and that it is the derivative of y relative to x.
 
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I wasn't too sure if this would be considered a homework question. If someone could let me know so I can start posting in the correct section, that would be helpful. :smile:
 


vanmaiden said:

Homework Statement


I am unsure of what dy/dx means when used in derivatives. However, I do know that it is called the derivative operator and have been told its the derivative of y relative to x, but could someone elaborate this for me?


Homework Equations


an example equation might be dy/dx = x2 + 4x + 4


The Attempt at a Solution


I have been told that its called the derivative operator and that it is the derivative of y relative to x.

dy/dx is the derivative of y with respect to x, where y is assumed to be a differentiable function of x.

dy/dx is not an operator - it is a function. d/dx is an operator that is applied to a differentiable function. A function takes a number as its input, and produces a number as its output. In contrast, an operator takes a function as its input, and produces a function as its output.
 


Mark44 said:
dy/dx is the derivative of y with respect to x, where y is assumed to be a differentiable function of x.

dy/dx is not an operator - it is a function. d/dx is an operator that is applied to a differentiable function. A function takes a number as its input, and produces a number as its output. In contrast, an operator takes a function as its input, and produces a function as its output.

To get my terminology straight, would a differential function be a derivative? please elaborate. Thank you.
 


vanmaiden said:
To get my terminology straight, would a differential function be a derivative? please elaborate. Thank you.
Do you mean "differentiable" function? If so, that's a function that can be differentiated; i.e., one that has a derivative. A differential is something different.
 


Mark44 said:
Do you mean "differentiable" function? If so, that's a function that can be differentiated; i.e., one that has a derivative. A differential is something different.

Yes, exactly what I meant. Thank you
 


There's something of a disconnect in the terminology that is used in English. To get the derivative of a function, we differentiate it (we don't derive it). If the function has a derivative, it is differentiable (not derivable). Go figure.
 


That's because the concept of a differentiable function for functions with more than variable is more stringent than the simple existence of the partial derivatives.
 


Mark44 said:
There's something of a disconnect in the terminology that is used in English. To get the derivative of a function, we differentiate it (we don't derive it). If the function has a derivative, it is differentiable (not derivable). Go figure.

Fascinating. Therefore, what would one consider deriving a function?
 
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In the context of this thread (differentiation and the derivative), "deriving a function" has no meaning.

In a different context, one can start from observations and derive a general formula, but this is unrelated to differentiation.
 
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Though my question was off-topic, thank you for answering it anyway.
 
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