What is Hartridge Smoke Unit (HSU) ? for Diesel engine emission

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Hartridge Smoke Unit (HSU) in the context of diesel engine emissions, specifically focusing on its measurement of smoke opacity and its correlation with other smoke measurement systems like the Filter Smoke Number (FSN). Participants seek to understand the visual representation of HSU values and how to interpret them in terms of emission cleanliness.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the Hartridge Smoke Unit (HSU) and requests visual examples of different HSU values (e.g., 25, 50, 100, 150) to better understand smoke opacity.
  • Another participant explains that HSU values range from 0 (perfect transmission) to 100 (total opacity) and notes that these values are not linear with respect to actual light absorption.
  • A participant expresses a desire to understand how to verify whether emissions are clean or smoky based on HSU values, reiterating the request for pictures.
  • It is mentioned that visual representations may not effectively convey smoke opacity due to subjective factors like light conditions and background color.
  • One participant seeks to understand the correlation between HSU and Filter Smoke Number (FSN), indicating that they have results from both systems and wish to compare them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of visual representations for understanding HSU values, with some arguing against their utility while others continue to seek them. The correlation between HSU and FSN remains an open question without a clear resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the interpretation of HSU values and their relationship to emission cleanliness, highlighting the complexity of measuring smoke opacity and the potential for subjective interpretation.

Su Solberg
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I am working of the Diesel Emission Project, however i have some problem in evaluating the filtraion power of the Particulate Remover Unit. The following is my question:

What is Hartridge Smoke Unit (HSU) ?

Could anyone can provide some picture of different level of HSU so that I can understand the visual scenario of different value (e.g. 25, 50, 100, 150)?

Thank you very much for your kind help.
 
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Pictures won't give you a good idea of smoke opacity, which is what you're interested in. A value of 0 indicates perfect transmission, or zero opacity. A value of 100 indicates total absorption, or complete opacity. This is referenced (in the case of HSU) to a transmission length of 430mm, at 100°C and atmospheric pressure. Values in between are not linear with respect to actual light absorption.
 
brewnog said:
Pictures won't give you a good idea of smoke opacity, which is what you're interested in. A value of 0 indicates perfect transmission, or zero opacity. A value of 100 indicates total absorption, or complete opacity. This is referenced (in the case of HSU) to a transmission length of 430mm, at 100°C and atmospheric pressure. Values in between are not linear with respect to actual light absorption.

Thank you very much for your reply.
However, I would like to ask how to verify the meaning that the emission is clean or smoky in terms of HSU?
Could you provide some picture??

Thank you very much for your help.
 
Su Solberg said:
Thank you very much for your reply.
However, I would like to ask how to verify the meaning that the emission is clean or smoky in terms of HSU?
Could you provide some picture??

Thank you very much for your help.

0 is invisible, 100 is a thick, dense smoke. Then you have everything else in between. As I stated, pictures are pretty useless, since this isn't a subjective measure, and the same smoke level can look good/bad depending on light conditions, background colour, and dilution.

Pretty smoky:
2501927384_2dfe6277fe.jpg


Pretty clean:
caterham_x330_concept_04.jpg
 
Anyone who can tell me the corelation between Hartridge Smoke Unit (HSU) and FILTER SMOKE NUMBER(FSN) as I have the two systems giving one in HSU and the other in FSN.I would like to compare the result given by the two SYSTEM
 

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