What is meant by find the time constant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the time constant in the context of a differential equation (DE) related to an electrical circuit, specifically a series RC circuit. Participants explore the relationship between charge and current, as well as the methods for solving the DE.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a DE for an electrical circuit with a step input and asks how to find the time constant and relate charge to current.
  • Another participant questions the validity of the initial solution and requests a circuit diagram, emphasizing that current is typically more relevant in practical applications.
  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the DE to express it in terms of current, with one participant stating that this is a common approach when solving such problems.
  • There is a mention of integrating current to find charge, with a note that the integration constant must be determined appropriately.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether differentiating the DE is always the first step in the solution process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial solution presented, and there are competing views on the approach to solving the DE and the relevance of charge versus current in circuit analysis.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the circuit configuration and the definitions of terms used, as well as the dependence on the specific context of the problem being discussed.

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I solved a DE for an electrical circuit where the input was a step input.
\[
\mathcal{U}(t) =
\begin{cases}
0, & \text{if } t <0\\
V, & \text{otherwise}
\end{cases}
\]
So the solved DE for \(t > 0\) is
\[
q(t) = VC + Ae^{\frac{-R}{C}t}.
\]
  1. How do I find the time constant?
  2. Also, \(q(t)\) is the charge. How can I go from \(q(t)\) to the current with respect to time?
 
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If the circuit is a series $RC$ circuit, then I don't buy your solution. Can you post the circuit? To get from charge to current, you simply use the definition of current:
$$i= \frac{dq}{dt}.$$
Incidentally, electrical engineers solve circuits for $i$, and almost never bother with charge, because current is so much easier to measure in a lab.
 
Ackbach said:
If the circuit is a series $RC$ circuit, then I don't buy your solution. Can you post the circuit? To get from charge to current, you simply use the definition of current:
$$i= \frac{dq}{dt}.$$
Incidentally, electrical engineers solve circuits for $i$, and almost never bother with charge, because current is so much easier to measure in a lab.

The circuit is \(\mathcal{U}(t) = iR + \frac{1}{C}\int i(t)dt\)
 
dwsmith said:
The circuit is \(\mathcal{U}(t) = iR + \frac{1}{C}\int i(t)dt\)

So, differentiating once yields
\begin{align*}
0&=R \frac{di}{dt}+\frac{i}{C} \\
R \frac{di}{dt}&=- \frac{i}{C} \\
\frac{di}{dt}&=- \frac{1}{RC} \, i.
\end{align*}
What is the solution to this DE?
 
Ackbach said:
So, differentiating once yields
\begin{align*}
0&=R \frac{di}{dt}+\frac{i}{C} \\
R \frac{di}{dt}&=- \frac{i}{C} \\
\frac{di}{dt}&=- \frac{1}{RC} \, i.
\end{align*}
What is the solution to this DE?

So that is trivial to solve. One question then. Do we always differentiate the DE to begin with after it is written?
 
dwsmith said:
So that is trivial to solve. One question then. Do we always differentiate the DE to begin with after it is written?

If you want to solve for $i$, then yes, essentially you differentiate once to get the DE in terms of $i$. You can do this if you have inductors in the circuit as well.

Now if some bozo (typically a physics professor like myself) wants to see the charge, you can just integrate the current and find the right integration constant.
 

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