What is reality according to quantum mechanics?

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The discussion centers around the nature of reality as described by quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to subjective experiences and interpretations. Participants explore various interpretations of quantum mechanics and their implications for understanding reality, including the Copenhagen interpretation and alternative views like QBism.

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  • Some participants argue that quantum mechanics does not fundamentally differ from classical mechanics regarding the nature of reality, emphasizing that the Copenhagen interpretation allows for an objective reality despite requiring an observer's subjective judgment.
  • Others highlight that quantum reality is characterized by nonlocality, which does not permit faster-than-light communication.
  • One participant questions how perception might influence quantum changes, referencing a friend's belief in the ability to create macro effects through subjective experiences.
  • Alternate interpretations of quantum mechanics, such as QBism and the Bayesian interpretation, are mentioned as additional perspectives on the topic.
  • Some participants express frustration with the discussion, suggesting that it is based on misunderstandings or incoherent ideas related to popular culture.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of quantum mechanics for understanding reality, with no consensus reached on the validity of subjective experiences influencing quantum phenomena. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the relationship between quantum mechanics and personal reality.

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Some claims rely on interpretations that may not be universally accepted, and the discussion reflects a range of assumptions about the nature of reality and the role of the observer in quantum mechanics.

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What does quantum mechanics say about the nature of reality? I have a friend who's been babbling about how he thinks given the right circumstances (meditation, LSD, the hokey poky, take your pick) you could create "personal reality" and I don't know enough about it to say precisely why he's wrong.
 
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Quantum mechanics does not say anything different about the nature of reality than classical mechanics. It is true that unlike classical mechanics, the most common interpretation (the Copenhagen interpretation) of quantum mechanics does require the subjective judgement of an observer. However, the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics is not inconsistent with an objective reality that is independent of one's subjective judgement.

For a discussion along these lines, take a look at Haag's "Local Quantum Physics" https://www.amazon.com/dp/3540610499/?tag=pfamazon01-20 (p297-298).

The most significant difference between classical and quantum reality is that quantum reality is "nonlocal" in some sense. However, this quantum nonlocality does not allow us to send messages faster than the speed of light.
 
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atyy said:
Quantum mechanics does not say anything different about the nature of reality than classical mechanics. It is true that unlike classical mechanics, the most common interpretation (the Copenhagen interpretation) of quantum mechanics does require the subjective judgement of an observer. However, the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics is not inconsistent with an objective reality that is independent of one's subjective judgement.

The most significant difference between classical and quantum reality is that quantum reality is "nonlocal" in some sense. However, this quantum nonlocality does not allow us to send messages faster than the speed of light.

Ok how does perception affect it? His main premiss was that through what is essentially delusion you could generate quantum changes that culminated in a macro effect.
 
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Cool thanks for the help. I did some more prodding and apparently he was basing his idea off an anime called A Certain Scientific Railgun. So you definitely babble
 
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I suggest you learn some quantum mechanics instead of trying to have a discussion about someone's incoherent babbling.

+1 on that !
 
Closed, as the entire thread is based on a false premise.
 
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