What is that indicator/math symbol?

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The discussion revolves around the identification and pronunciation of the Greek letter theta, particularly in the context of its use in mathematics and physics. Participants explore its significance, pronunciation variations, and its application in different contexts, including radioactivity.

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  • Some participants propose that the symbol in question is theta, with discussions about its uppercase and lowercase forms.
  • There are differing opinions on the pronunciation of theta, with some asserting it should be pronounced "teta" rather than "theta."
  • One participant mentions confusion regarding the use of theta in a specific context, suggesting alternatives like beta or gamma.
  • Another participant argues that using alpha, beta, or gamma would be problematic in the context of radioactivity.
  • Some participants note the historical pronunciation of theta in ancient Greek compared to modern Greek, leading to further discussion about phonetic differences.
  • There is a broader discussion about the use of various alphabets in mathematics, with participants expressing curiosity about why certain letters from other alphabets are not commonly used.
  • One participant highlights the need for more representation of Cyrillic letters in mathematical contexts.
  • Another participant mentions the interesting variety of meanings associated with Arabic letters in mathematical symbols.

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Participants express differing views on the pronunciation of theta and its appropriateness in specific contexts. There is no consensus on the best alternatives to theta or the inclusion of other alphabets in mathematical notation.

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Discussions include assumptions about pronunciation and the appropriateness of certain symbols in specific scientific contexts. The conversation reflects a mix of personal experiences and linguistic observations without resolving the underlying disagreements.

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Some sort of hazziness inside a circle ..name of that??
 

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Drakkith said:
And it's only made to let English native speakers look bad, as it is no "th" but originally pronounced as "teta", and of course with an "eh", not an "e". :-p
 
fresh_42 said:
And it's only made to let English native speakers look bad, as it is no "th" but pronounced as "teta", and of course with an "eh", not an "e". :-p

Err, what?
 
It is an uppercase theta; you are probably mores used to seeing a lowercase theta.
 
Drakkith said:
Err, what?
Ancient Greek: θῆτα thē̂ta [tʰɛ̂ːta]
 
fresh_42 said:
Ancient Greek: θῆτα thē̂ta [tʰɛ̂ːta]

Oh, you're just saying it was originally pronounced differently than we do now.
 
The Greek-Americans that I asked pronounce it "thita," rhyming with "pita" but enunciating the t.
 
Isberg and Resnick really confuses me [emoji24] He could use beta,gamma or anything, instead of this uppercase theta [emoji26]
 
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As this is in the context of radioactivity, alpha beta or gamma would be a problematic choice, and you probably want to keep delta for delta-electrons as well. ##\theta## for angles is quite common,no idea why that text uses ##\Theta##.
 
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Drakkith said:
Oh, you're just saying it was originally pronounced differently than we do now.
Yes, but whether one pronounces it in modern Greek, with an "[ i ]" or in ancient Greek with an "[ e ]", the "th" is wrong, as it is the Greek version of a "t" which is pronounced as a "t". Perhaps I should start and say the Steelers are from Pittsborough ...
Edit: I might have been wrong here, as the Greek have a sound [##t^h##] which is closer to "th" than to "t", something as in "theft". I had forgotten that there is also the ##\tau## for "t".
TeethWhitener said:
The Greek-Americans that I asked pronounce it "thita," rhyming with "pita" but enunciating the t.
Yes, but modern Greek is a bit different from the ancient language.
 
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Arup Biswas said:
Isberg and Resnick really confuses me [emoji24] He could use beta,gamma or anything, instead of this uppercase theta [emoji26]
We usually loot every alphabet we can get a hand on ##a,b,c,\ldots , \alpha,\beta,\gamma,\ldots , \mathfrak{a},\mathfrak{g},\mathfrak{h},\ldots, \mathbb{C},\mathbb{F},\mathbb{N},\ldots ,\mathcal{A},\mathcal{B},\mathcal{C},\ldots , \mathscr{A},\mathscr{B},\mathscr{C}##
that it makes me wonder why we don't use и , я , ч , etc.
 
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fresh_42 said:
We usually loot every alphabet we can get a hand on ##a,b,c,\ldots , \alpha,\beta,\gamma,\ldots , \mathfrak{a},\mathfrak{g},\mathfrak{h},\ldots, \mathbb{C},\mathbb{F},\mathbb{N},\ldots ,\mathcal{A},\mathcal{B},\mathcal{C},\ldots , \mathscr{A},\mathscr{B},\mathscr{C}##
that it makes me wonder why we don't use и , я , ч , etc.
Don't forget the Hebrew letter aleph (##\aleph##), as in ##\aleph_0, \aleph_1## and so on.
 
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Arabic has some interesting letters. Too many important symbols have a wide variety of meanings
 

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