What Is the Acceleration of the Inclined Plane with an Ice Cube Sliding Down?

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The problem involves a cube of ice sliding down an inclined plane that can move without friction. The incline is set at an angle of 20 degrees and has a height of 4 meters. The mass of the ice is one-fourth that of the inclined plane, and the task is to calculate the acceleration of the inclined plane when the ice reaches the midpoint of the incline.

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces acting on both the ice cube and the inclined plane using equations of motion. Some participants suggest considering conservation of energy and momentum as alternative approaches. Others mention applying Newton's 2nd Law while noting the relationship between the accelerations of the ice cube and the inclined plane.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Participants have offered guidance on different methods to consider, including energy conservation and momentum analysis, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the interactions between the ice cube and the inclined plane, and the implications of the mass relationship between them. There is an emphasis on exploring multiple methods without a definitive solution being proposed.

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Homework Statement



There is a cube of ice the top of inclined plane (for 20 degress) with height 4 meters. The inclined plane can move without friction along the surface. The mass of the ice is 1/4 of the mass of inclined plane. Calculate the acceleration of the inclined plane, when the ice will be at the middle of the inclined plane.

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I tried to draw the forces acting on the cube. That are

x-axis along the inclined plane: M/4 g sin(20) - a_1 M/4 cos(20) = M/4 a_2... (where a_1 is the acceleration of the inclined plane)

y-axis perpendicular to the inclined plane: F_n + M/4 a_1 sin(20) = M/4 g cos(20)=0 ... (where F_n is the perpendicular force of the plane)

Forces acting on the inclined plane:

x-axis: F_n sin(20)= M*a_1

y_axis: F_n * cos(20) + M*g= F_s...(where F_s is the force of the surface to the incline)


The first three eqatuions give a_1 and a_2, since M is canceled out after substituting for F_n. I think, this would give correct answer. However, since this is probably a well known problem, I am interested in other possible approaches.
 
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Hi tamref! Welcome to PF! :smile:
tamref said:
There is a cube of ice the top of inclined plane (for 20 degress) with height 4 meters. The inclined plane can move without friction along the surface. The mass of the ice is 1/4 of the mass of inclined plane. Calculate the acceleration of the inclined plane, when the ice will be at the middle of the inclined plane.

I am interested in other possible approaches.

Try conservation of energy :wink:
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi tamref! Welcome to PF! :smile:


Try conservation of energy :wink:

I think momentum may also be relevant.

Neat problem, which I haven't come across before.

Try solving it two ways: conserve energy and horizontal momentum.

Also apply Newton's 2nd Law, remembering that the acceleration of the
ice cube (relative to the ground) is the vector sum of its acceleration
relative to the wedge, and the wedge's acceleration relative to the ground.
 
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tiny-tim said:
Hi tamref! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Thank you, tiny-tim.

Thank you also for help, tiny-tim and davieddy.
 

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