What is the afterburner on the F-35 Lightning II like?

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The discussion revolves around the afterburner of the F-35 Lightning II, touching on its performance and implications for military spending. Participants explore various aspects of the aircraft, including its operational costs, quality, and the challenges associated with its development.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the impressive performance of the F-35's afterburner, referencing a video demonstration.
  • Concerns are raised about the overall cost of the F-35 program, which is reported to be nearing $1 trillion, attributed to delays and inefficiencies.
  • One participant argues that the high cost is justified by the quality of the aircraft, noting that the F-22 has never been lost in battle.
  • Another participant challenges the assertion about the F-22's combat record, suggesting that it has never been in battle.
  • There is a discussion about the ambitious requirements of the F-35 program, which aims to serve multiple branches of the military and fulfill various roles, leading to complexities in development.
  • Despite criticisms, some participants acknowledge the F-35 as an incredible aircraft, though opinions on its value and effectiveness vary.

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Participants express differing views on the value and performance of the F-35, with no consensus on the justification of its costs or the effectiveness of its design. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of its operational history and the overall assessment of the aircraft.

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Limitations in the discussion include assumptions about the F-22's combat history and the complexities of the F-35 program's requirements, which are not fully explored or resolved.

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look at the afterburner when it goes vtaf!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6668433355004112446&ei=38uqSOcZipLjArvDvJUL&q=F35+lightning2&vt=lf&hl=en
 
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motomax99 said:
look at the afterburner when it goes vtaf!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6668433355004112446&ei=38uqSOcZipLjArvDvJUL&q=F35+lightning2&vt=lf&hl=en

freerepublic.info said:
The cost of buying and operating a new fleet of jet fighters for the U.S. military is nearing $1 trillion, according to a congressional audit that found the program dogged by delays, manufacturing inefficiencies and price increases.

Released Tuesday, the report from the Government Accountability Office offers a sobering assessment of the ambitious effort to deliver a modern series of aircraft known as the F-35 Lightning II to the Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps.
http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/1984480/posts

Not awesome. This cost is probably over four decades, but still not awesome.
 
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Don't forget,you are paying for quality...Remember the US has never lost a F-22 in battle.
 
they've never lost a pogo stick with a bell on top in battle, either.
 
WhiteKnights said:
Don't forget,you are paying for quality...Remember the US has never lost a F-22 in battle.

...? Probably because an F-22 has never been in battle...

I really don't think you have any idea what you're talking about (sorry).
 
OAQfirst said:
http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/1984480/posts

Not awesome. This cost is probably over four decades, but still not awesome.

It's not surprising considering the absolutely Herculean requirements for that project. There has never been a program that was supposed to span all services and perform, essentially, all fighter and bomber roles. They want everything in one package and this is what they get. The bean counters want one single aircraft to reduce maintenance and operating costs. They're losing any gains in the up front costs for having to figure out the aviation version of the TOE.

BTW...it is still an incredible aircraft. Give credit where credit is due.
 
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FredGarvin said:
BTW...it is still an incredible aircraft. Give credit where credit is due.

I would if there was any credit left to give. :P
 

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