What is the Angle Formed by a Leaning Ladder Against a House?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle formed by a 16-foot ladder leaning against a house, specifically focusing on the mathematical approach to determine this angle using trigonometric functions. Participants explore the conversion of measurements and angles between different units, including feet to inches and radians to degrees.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the sine function to find the angle, stating that sin(x) = 50/16, where x is the angle formed by the ladder with the ground.
  • Another participant corrects the conversion of 12 feet 6 inches to inches, suggesting it should be 150 inches instead of 50 inches.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about whether the angle can be left as a decimal and seeks clarification on converting the decimal to degrees.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of the decimal angle and its conversion to degrees using the formula D + m/60 + s/3600.
  • One participant asserts that the angle calculated is in radians and not in arc-seconds, prompting a request for conversion guidance.
  • Another participant suggests multiplying by the fraction $$\frac{180^{\circ}}{\pi}$$ to convert radians to degrees.
  • There is a confirmation that multiplying by $$\frac{180^{\circ}}{\pi}$$ will convert an angle in radians to degrees.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct conversion of measurements and angles, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the calculations and interpretations presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the initial measurements and the interpretation of the angle in radians versus degrees, which remain unresolved.

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A 16 foot ladder is leaning against a house. It touches the bottom of a window that is 12, feet 6 inches above the ground. What is the measure of the angle that the ladder forms with the ground?

I will use sin (x), where x is the
measure of the angle that the ladder forms with the ground.

I think it best for me to convert 12 feet, 6 inches to inches. So, we have 50 inches.

sin (x) = 50/16

arcsin (sin x) = arcsin (50/16)

x = 0.0165919

Can the angle be left as a decimal answer? If not, how do I change 0.0165919 to degrees?
 
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If you convert 12.5 ft. to inches (which is 150 in.) you must do the same to the other.

To convert to degrees recall there are $$\pi$$ radians in 180 degrees.
 
xyz_1965 said:
A 16 foot ladder is leaning against a house. It touches the bottom of a window that is 12, feet 6 inches above the ground. What is the measure of the angle that the ladder forms with the ground?

I will use sin (x), where x is the
measure of the angle that the ladder forms with the ground.

I think it best for me to convert 12 feet, 6 inches to inches. So, we have 50 inches.

sin (x) = 50/16

arcsin (sin x) = arcsin (50/16)

x = 0.0165919

Can the angle be left as a decimal answer? If not, how do I change 0.0165919 to degrees?

Given 0.0165919, I know it really means. 0° 0' 0.0165919".

I can use D + m/60 + s/3600, where D represents degrees, m is minutes and s is seconds.

= 0° + 0'/60 + 0.0165919"/3600
= 0.000004608861 degrees.

Is this right, Mark?
 
xyz_1965 said:
Given 0.0165919, I know it really means. 0° 0' 0.0165919".

I can use D + m/60 + s/3600, where D represents degrees, m is minutes and s is seconds.

= 0° + 0'/60 + 0.0165919"/3600
= 0.000004608861 degrees.

Is this right, Mark?

No, presumably the angle you have is in radians which is not the same as arc-seconds.
 
MarkFL said:
No, presumably the angle you have is in radians which is not the same as arc-seconds.

Can show me how to make the conversion?
 
xyz_1965 said:
Can show me how to make the conversion?

Use this:

MarkFL said:
To convert to degrees recall there are $$\pi$$ radians in 180 degrees.
 
MarkFL said:
Use this:

What do you mean? Multiply the given decimal number by π? Are you saying to multiply the given decimal number by 180 degrees? Are you saying to use π/180°?
 
xyz_1965 said:
What do you mean? Multiply the given decimal number by π? Are you saying to multiply the given decimal number by 180 degrees? Are you saying to use π/180°?

Like with any unit conversion, you want to multiply by 1 in the form of a fraction containing some number of the desired unit over the equivalent number of current units. In this case, it would be:

$$\frac{180^{\circ}}{\pi}$$
 
MarkFL said:
Like with any unit conversion, you want to multiply by 1 in the form of a fraction containing some number of the desired unit over the equivalent number of current units. In this case, it would be:

$$\frac{180^{\circ}}{\pi}$$

Are you saying to multiply the given decimal number by $$\frac{180^{\circ}}{\pi}$$?
 
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xyz_1965 said:
Are you saying to multiply the given decimal number by $$\frac{180^{\circ}}{\pi}$$?

Yes, that will convert an angle in radians to the same angle in degrees.
 
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MarkFL said:
Yes, that will convert an angle in radians to the same angle in degrees.

Good to know.
 

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