Ladder Leaning against wall -- find the coefficient of friction

In summary: It's more like a consequence of the other equations though.No, you don't end up with 4 equations. You end up with 3 equations. You were on the right track with the second post. In summary, the problem involves finding the coefficient of friction between a ladder leaning against a wall at angle θ and the floor, with the ladder being L meters long and having a mass of m. The problem assumes that there is no friction at the top of the ladder. The equations used to solve this problem include ΣFx = 0, ΣFy = 0, and Στ = 0, with the friction force being equal to μFn (where Fn is the normal force between the ladder and the
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Homework Statement



Ladder leans against wall at angle θ. It is L meters long and mass m. Find the coefficient of friction with the floor. Assume no friction at the top.[/B]

Homework Equations


ΣFx = 0
ΣFy = 0
Στ = 0
ƒ = μFn (Fn being the normal force with the ground)

The Attempt at a Solution



1. Drew free body diagram
2. Broke vectors into their respective sin and cos parts
3. Ended up with 4 complicated equations, 4 unknowns
4. Super complicated answer with a lot of sin, cos that are not solvable. Am I doing this right??

help
 
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Pedgepoke said:
Ladder leans against wall at angle θ. It is L meters long and mass m. Find the coefficient of friction with the floor. Assume no friction
Not enough information. I presume it also says the ladder is on the point of slipping, or maybe it actually asks for a lower bound on the coefficient.
Pedgepoke said:
Am I doing this right??
Doesn't sound like it, but not possible to help further without seeing your work.
Please post as typed in algebra, not an image.
 
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As haruspex noted, you need to be more specific in your problem statement. Is this ladder on the verge of slipping? Are you looking for a range of angles where the ladder will not slip? How about when someone tries to climb the ladder? There may be a maximum height they can climb before slippage.
 
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Show your working. You might have missed some issues implied in the problem statement. For example zero friction at the wall means the reaction force there must be horizontal.
 
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I would think you would end up with 3 equations since this is a static equilibrium problem in the x-y plane. ΣF(x) = 0, ΣF(y) = 0, Στ(z) = 0, τ = r x F,
 
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Dr Dr news said:
I would think you would end up with 3 equations since this is a static equilibrium problem in the x-y plane. ΣF(x) = 0, ΣF(y) = 0, Στ(z) = 0, τ = r x F,
Judging from post #1, it may be that Ff=μN is being counted as a separate equation.
 

What is the coefficient of friction?

The coefficient of friction is a dimensionless number that represents the amount of resistance between two surfaces when they are in contact and moving against each other. It is often denoted by the symbol "μ" and can range from 0 to 1, with 0 representing no friction and 1 representing maximum friction.

How is the coefficient of friction calculated?

The coefficient of friction can be calculated by dividing the force required to move an object over a surface by the weight of the object. This can be done by using a spring scale to measure the force and a balance to measure the weight. The resulting ratio is the coefficient of friction.

Why is the coefficient of friction important?

The coefficient of friction is important because it affects the ability of objects to move or stay in place on a surface. It also plays a crucial role in engineering and designing structures, as well as in predicting the behavior of objects in motion.

How does the angle of the ladder affect the coefficient of friction?

The angle of the ladder does not directly affect the coefficient of friction. However, it can indirectly affect it by changing the normal force between the ladder and the wall. As the angle increases, the normal force decreases, which can result in a lower coefficient of friction.

Why is it important to determine the coefficient of friction for a ladder leaning against a wall?

Determining the coefficient of friction for a ladder leaning against a wall is important for safety purposes. If the coefficient of friction is too low, the ladder may slip or slide, causing accidents and injuries. It is also important for engineers and architects to determine the appropriate coefficient of friction when designing structures that involve ladders.

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