What Is the Angular Acceleration and Tension When a Cable Breaks?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a uniform rod supported by cables, focusing on the scenario where a vertical cable suddenly breaks. Participants are tasked with determining the angular acceleration of the rod and the tension in the remaining cables at the moment of the break.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the broken cable on the system, questioning whether the vertical cable's existence is necessary for calculations. Some suggest drawing the scenario with the cable included to better understand the tensions involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of the vertical cable in relation to the tensions in the other cables, while others express differing views on the role of tension in determining angular acceleration.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a picture that illustrates the problem, but its relevance is debated. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the problem, such as the assumptions about the system's behavior immediately after the cable breaks.

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Homework Statement


A uniform rod of length L and mass m is supported as shown in the figure. A vertical cable at A suddenly breaks. Determine at this instant the angular acceleration of the rod and the tension in cables AE and BF.


Homework Equations


mass moment of intertia of bar: 1/12mL^2
summation of forces
relative accelerations


The Attempt at a Solution


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I don't see the "vertical cable at A" in the picture. Is the picture drawn after this cable has broken?
 
Yes, vertical cable at A is not drawn in because it has broken. I don't think this cable works into the equations at all.
 
No, you definitely need to use that information. The tensions in the other cables at the instant of breaking depends on the existence of the vertical cable at A. A fraction of a second later, the tensions in the other cables will readjust to make up for the loss of the first cable. You want to study the system before this readjustment happens.

First draw the picture with the vertical cable at A. You will immediately notice something (by inspection) about the tension in cable AE. You can also solve for the tension in BF. You then need to use these values and set the tension in the vertical cable at A = zero to determine the instantaneous acceleration of the rod.
 
The tension in the rod doesn't matter because tension cannot effect angular acceleration. To solve this problem you basically have the mass move about the rod. Force of gravity translates into torque. Torque translates into angular acceleration. Technical you could do it without knowing the mass either.
 

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