What is the Angular Acceleration of a Rod Released From Rest at an Angle?

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The problem involves a uniform rod pivoted at its center with an attached weight, released from a specific angle. The goal is to determine the angular acceleration immediately after release, considering the effects of torque and inertia.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of torque and inertia, questioning the treatment of the attached weight as part of the system. There is also a consideration of the angle at which the rod is released and its impact on torque calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on considering the angle of the rod when calculating torque. Others have raised questions about the inertia of non-uniform bars and the implications of the rod's pivoting motion on the forces involved.

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Participants note the problem's constraints, including the neglect of the weight's size and the assumption of no external forces acting on the system. There is also a follow-up problem regarding the angular velocity of the rod when it becomes vertical, which introduces additional complexities related to energy conservation.

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Homework Statement


A uniform rod with of weight of 10 kg and length of 5.8 m is pivoted at its center and a small weight of mass 5.15 kg is rigidly attached to one end. You may neglect the size of the weight and assume it is located right at the end of the rod. The system is released from rest at a 37° angle. There are no external forces. What is the angular acceleration just after it is released?

Homework Equations



Torque = Angular Acceleration times Inertia
Torque = Force times Distance from pivot
Inertia of a uniformly weighted bar = 1/12 M L^2
I = Icm + M D^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the bar is pivoting about it's center, the net torque of the bar itself is zero. (One side balances the other out.)
The torque of the weight is 2.9 x 50.52 = 146.51
146.51 = I times angular acceleration.
The inertia of the bar = 1/12 (10) 5.8^2 = 28.033
146.5 / 28.033 = 5.226
This is wrong. Clearly I need to calculate the Inertia for the Weight, not just the bar, but since the problem says to neglect the size of the weight, I assume you have to treat it as part of the bar.
How do you calculate the inertia for a non-uniform bar?
 
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TG3 said:
The torque of the weight is 2.9 x 50.52 = 146.51
That would be true if the bar were horizontal, but it's not. Consider the angle.
 
Ah yes. That did it. Thanks!
I'm also having trouble with a follow up problem:

What is the angular velocity when the rod is vertical?

The distance the rod falls is 1.15m, since sin 37 x 2.9 = 1.745 and 2.9- 1.74 = 1.15.
Final Velocity of an object falling in free fall is the square root of 2gy, so 9.81 x 1.15 x 2 = 4.7598
Angular Velocity = Tangential Velocity / radius
W = 4.7598 / 2.9
W = 1.64, according to my (wrong) calculations.
 
TG3 said:
The distance the rod falls is 1.15m, since sin 37 x 2.9 = 1.745 and 2.9- 1.74 = 1.15.
OK. The end of the rod falls that distance.
Final Velocity of an object falling in free fall is the square root of 2gy, so 9.81 x 1.15 x 2 = 4.7598
Nothing is in free fall here. (The rod rotates about a pivot, which exerts a force on it.)

Instead, consider conservation of energy. Find the rotational KE of the system.
 

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