Finding the angular speed of a hinged rod without using torque or acceleration.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular speed of a hinged rod without utilizing torque or acceleration concepts. The center of mass is determined to be at l/2, leading to the calculation of torque as mg*l/4. The moment of inertia is derived using the parallel axis theorem, resulting in alpha = 3g/4l. However, the initial angle of 30 degrees above horizontal complicates the calculations, as the angular acceleration varies during the fall, leading to discrepancies in the final angular speed calculation.

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Homework Statement
A rod of length 50cm is pivoted at one end. It is raised such that it makes an angle 30 degrees from the horizontal as shown and released from rest. It's angular speed when it passes through the horizontal will be
Relevant Equations
wf^2 - wi^2 = 2*alpha*theta,
w=angular velocity
Torque =F*r
Torque =I*alpha
The centre of mass of the rod would be at the middle of the rod i.e. at
l/2=[50*10^(-2)]/2
The force responsible for torque will be acting downwards = mg
The Torque = mg*l/2*sin(30) =mg*l/4
We know that Torque=I*alpha
Hence alpha = mg*l/(4*I)
Moment of inertia of rod about the end= ml^2/12 + ml^2/4 (parallel axis theorem) =ml^2/3
Hence alpha=3mgl/(4ml^2) =3g/4l
Now wf^2- wi^2 =2*alpha *theta
=2*3g/4l*pi/6 since theta =pi/6 since it starts from rest wi=0
Hence wf^2 = 2*3*10/(4*0.5)*pi/6
Hence wf= 3.96
But the answer is sqrt(30). Apparently they haven't considered the angle pi/6. Where am I wrong?
 
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Crystal037 said:
The Torque = mg*l/2*sin(30) =mg*l/4
Two problems with that.
The initial position is 30 degrees above horizontal, not 30 degrees from vertical.
The angle will change as the rod falls, so the angular acceleration increases.

Can you think of an approach that avoids torques and accelerations?
 

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