What is the appropriate constitutive law for HDPE?

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The discussion centers around identifying an appropriate constitutive law for modeling crack propagation in high-density polyethylene (HDPE) using Ansys. It explores the behavior of HDPE under large deformations, particularly in the context of tensile testing and potential crystallization during crack formation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the size of strains and the possibility of crystallization during crack formation.
  • Another participant notes that HDPE can experience large strains, up to 600%, during tensile tests, and mentions that crack propagation occurs at room temperature.
  • A participant expresses that developing a general constitutive equation for HDPE at large deformations is challenging and questions whether a simplified quantification of the kinematics is possible.
  • Some participants reference authors who propose that the constitutive law for HDPE is elastic-viscoplastic, while raising concerns about determining the parameters for the viscoplastic part, which requires specific experimental data.
  • Others mention that some authors classify the constitutive law as elastic-plastic and question its appropriateness for HDPE.
  • One participant highlights the existence of various constitutive equations for viscoelastic materials but notes the lack of a model that quantitatively describes HDPE behavior for arbitrary deformations.
  • A participant suggests using the Perzyna model to simulate the viscoplastic behavior of HDPE and seeks information on its applicability to large versus small deformations.
  • Another participant admits unfamiliarity with the Perzyna model and cannot provide information on its effectiveness.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate constitutive law for HDPE, with some advocating for elastic-viscoplastic models and others for elastic-plastic models. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which model is most suitable.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the challenges in determining material parameters for viscoplastic models and the potential discrepancies between laboratory measurements and field conditions, which may affect model accuracy.

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hello all
i want to model crack propagation in HDPE using Ansys, first i need to define the behaviour of this material,
so, what is the adequate constitutive law for HDPE.
thanks all
 
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Are the strains small? Is there going to be any crystallization during the crack formation?
 
hello
the HDPE have a large strain that can reach 600% in tensile test, about the of crack propagation, the process carried out in room temperature.
thanks for interest.
 
Developing a general constitutive equation that describes actual HDPE behavior at large deformations is quite a challenge. I don't think that one exists. Is there any way of providing a simplified approximate quantification of the kinematics for this specific deformation?
 
there are some authors who state that the constitutive law is elastc-viscoplastic. but the difficulty is how to determine the parameters of the viscoplastic part ?? take in account that these parameters need experimental data that require special machine to do the tests. Furthermore, there are others that declared the constitutive law as elastic-plastic, but, is this law appropriate for HDPE ??
 
zerrouki said:
there are some authors who state that the constitutive law is elastc-viscoplastic. but the difficulty is how to determine the parameters of the viscoplastic part ?? take in account that these parameters need experimental data that require special machine to do the tests. Furthermore, there are others that declared the constitutive law as elastic-plastic, but, is this law appropriate for HDPE ??
There are lots of constitutive equations out there that describe viscoelastic materials qualitatively, in terms of a set of material parameters. However, I know of none that are capable of describing the behavior of a real material like HDPE quantitatively for an arbitrary deformation. So, even though you can make laboratory measurements to determine a set of material constants, unless the kinematics of the deformation experienced in the field is very close to the laboratory kinematics, the model will not make accurate predictions for the actual field kinematics.
 
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i thought to use perzyna option to model the viscoplastic behaviour of the HDPE, have you some informations about this model ? ( if it can work with large deformation or with just small ones ?).
 
zerrouki said:
i thought to use perzyna option to model the viscoplastic behaviour of the HDPE, have you some informations about this model ? ( if it can work with large deformation or with just small ones ?).
I'm not familiar with that model. Sorry.
 

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