What is the area of square ABCD with OQ = OF = 6?

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of square ABCD given that OQ = OF = 6. Participants explore different approaches, including coordinate geometry and hints towards geometric solutions.

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  • Post 1 presents the problem of calculating the area of square ABCD based on the given lengths OQ and OF.
  • Post 2 outlines a solution using coordinate geometry, detailing the placement of points and deriving relationships between them, ultimately leading to an area calculation of 12 for the square.
  • Post 2 includes assumptions about the geometric configuration, such as the interpretation of a semicircle and the relationships between points A, B, C, D, and their coordinates.
  • Post 3 offers a hint, suggesting an alternative approach, though details are not provided.
  • Post 4 indicates a preference for a purely geometric solution, contrasting with the coordinate geometry approach discussed earlier.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the best method to solve the problem, with ongoing exploration of both coordinate and geometric approaches. There is no agreement on the validity of the proposed solutions or the assumptions made.

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The discussion includes various assumptions about the geometric configuration and relationships between points, which may affect the interpretation of the problem. The reliance on coordinate geometry introduces potential limitations in understanding the geometric properties of the square.

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Find area of square ABCD if OQ=OF=6.
 

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Here is an outline of a solution using coordinate geometry.

[TIKZ][scale=1.5]
\coordinate [label=above right:{\textcolor{blue}O}] (O) at (0,0) ;
\coordinate [label=above right:{\textcolor{blue}A}] (A) at (0,3.46) ;
\coordinate [label=above right:{\textcolor{blue}B}] (B) at (1.73,0.46) ;
\coordinate [label=above right:{\textcolor{blue}C}] (C) at (4.73,2.19) ;
\coordinate [label=above right:{\textcolor{blue}D}] (D) at (3,5.2) ;
\coordinate [label=above right:{\textcolor{blue}F}] (F) at (6,0) ;
\coordinate [label=above right:{\textcolor{blue}H}] (H) at (5.91,1.02) ;
\coordinate [label=above right:{\textcolor{blue}K}] (K) at (1.02,5.91) ;
\coordinate [label=above right:{\textcolor{blue}Q}] (Q) at (0,6) ;
\coordinate [label=above right:{M}] (M) at (3.46,3.46) ;
\draw [blue, ultra thick] (A) -- (B) -- (C) -- (D) -- cycle ;
\draw [brown, ultra thick] (H) -- (K) ;
\draw [blue, ultra thick] (F) -- (O) -- (Q) ;
\draw [blue, ultra thick] (F) arc (0:90:6) ;
\draw [brown, ultra thick] (K) arc (135:315:3.46) ;
\draw [thin] (A) -- (M) -- (3.46,0) ;
\draw [thin] (K) |- (M) |- (C) ;
\draw (0.9,4.7) node {$s$} ;
\draw (2.2,3.6) node {$s$} ;
\draw (-0.2,1.7) node {$t$} ;
\draw (1.7,-0.2) node {$t$} ;
\draw (3.3,2.8) node {$u$} ;
\draw (4.1,2.1) node {$u$} ;
\draw [thin, dashed] (A) -- (C) ;
\draw [thin, dashed] (B) -- (D) ;
\foreach \point in {O,A,B,C,D,F,H,K,Q} \fill [blue] (\point) circle (2pt) ;
\fill (M) circle (2pt) ;[/TIKZ]
Choose a coordinate system with origin at O, so that F is the point $(6,0)$ and Q is $(0,6)$.

I assume that the brown part of the diagram is meant to be a semicircle and its diameter. Let M be the midpoint of HK, with coordinates $(t,t)$, so that the semicircle has radius $t$. Then the line HK has equation $x+y = 2t$. Let K be the point $(t-s,t+s)$. The distance KM is $t$, from which it follows that $t^2 = 2s^2$. The condition that K lies on the blue circle of radius $6$ is $(t+s)^2 + (t-s)^2 = 36$, from which $3t^2 = 36$ and hence $t = \sqrt{12}$.

Next, let C be the point $(t+u,t-u)$. The centre of the square ABCD is the midpoint of AC, namely $\bigl(\frac12t+ \frac12u, t - \frac12u\bigr)$. You can then calculate that B is the point $\bigl(\frac12t,\frac12t-u\bigr)$ and D is $\bigl(\frac12t + u,\frac32t\bigr)$. The conditions that B lies on the brown semicircle and that D lies on the blue circle both lead to the same equation $2u^2 + 2ut - t^2 = 0$. Therefore $u = \frac12(\sqrt3 - 1)t = 3-\sqrt3$.

Knowing $t$ and $u$, you can then easily check that the distance AB is $t$. So the area of the square ABCD is $t^2 = 12$.

I would much prefer to have a solution using a purely geometric argument, but I do not see how to do that.
 
Hint:
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Solution pure geometry:
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