What is the average power consumption of a car at different speeds?

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The discussion revolves around estimating the average power consumption of an average-sized car at various speeds, specifically 30, 50, and 70 mph. Participants explore methods for calculating or sourcing this information, with a focus on its relevance to energy harvesting in suspension systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks rough values for power consumption at different speeds, indicating a lack of need for precision.
  • Another suggests calculating power consumption from fuel economy data and mentions the availability of devices for real-time fuel consumption reporting.
  • A participant expresses interest in approximate power/fuel consumption figures for speeds of 30, 50, and 70 mph, linking this to a study on energy harvesting in suspension systems.
  • It is noted that the weight of the car and suspension travel are critical factors in energy output, with energy harvesting efficiency dependent on road conditions and suspension compliance.
  • A participant shares personal experience with a Mazda 6, providing fuel economy figures of 35 mpg at 30-50 mph and 30 mpg at 70 mph, questioning how these values can be utilized.
  • Another participant discusses the potential energy savings from suspension systems, suggesting that maintaining suspension and stability may limit energy extraction, while also proposing alternatives like using coils and magnets for energy harvesting.
  • One participant estimates that approximately 15 HP is needed to maintain 50 mph for a typical family car, providing a basis for further calculations related to energy harvesting from suspension systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the feasibility and efficiency of energy harvesting from suspension systems, with no consensus reached on the exact power consumption values or the effectiveness of different approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of specific variables such as car weight, suspension characteristics, and road conditions, which may influence the calculations and assumptions made regarding power consumption and energy harvesting.

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I need rough values for power consumption of an average sized car at different speeds.
Does anyone know how to either calculate or where I could find such information?

Thanks
 
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How many different speeds? You can start by calculating it from the fuel economy. You can also buy devices to report fuel consumption in realtime.
 
I don't need anything exact and I don't have a specific car. I'm just interested in approximates power/fuel consumption at speeds like 30,50 & 70 mph.
I'm doing a study on energy harvesting in suspension system and want to find out the % savings such systems could have on the average user.
 
Ziv7 said:
I don't need anything exact and I don't have a specific car. I'm just interested in approximates power/fuel consumption at speeds like 30,50 & 70 mph.
I'm doing a study on energy harvesting in suspension system and want to find out the % savings such systems could have on the average user.
You need weigth of the car and suspension travel during a ride. Energy output depends basically on how bumpy the road is, the suspension compliance, weight of the car, how long distance traveled. Harvesting all the energy loss makes very stiff suspensions...
 
I know about the power harvested as I have performed an experiment and done some analysis on matlab.
What I want is rough power consumption of an average car. (obviously the consumption is different at different speeds)
It is just for comparison purposes to represent the % of potential energy savings such systems can lead to.

Thanks
 
Well, for my last car, a Mazda 6, it got about 35mpg from 30-50mph and about 30mpg at 70mph. Do you know to use those values?
 
Ziv7 said:
I know about the power harvested as I have performed an experiment and done some analysis on matlab.
What I want is rough power consumption of an average car. (obviously the consumption is different at different speeds)
It is just for comparison purposes to represent the % of potential energy savings such systems can lead to.

Thanks
You would probably not save much if you want to maintain the suspension and stability properties of your car. The most energy you can extract from the suspension is having no suspension at all. Ofcourse the ride would be rather unpleasent, but mpg would increase.
Well, suspenson is not the enemy, but the suspensions damping mechanism. You can replace these dampers with coils and magnets, charging a battery and feed the electricity directly to an electric motor.
How it affects mpg depends on how the wheels bounce up and down. The average HP to maintain 50mph is approx 15 HP for a typical family car - say Mazda 6, and 35mpg. You have found the energy you can harvest from the suspension from the weight of the car and road conditions.

Then your calculations can be subtracted from the energy required to maintain velocity of 50mph on a straight and level road. That would provide the answer you're looking for.

Vidar
 

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