What is the Average Speed of a Cyclist on a Multi-Stage Journey?

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to average speed in a multi-stage journey involving a cyclist. The cyclist travels at different speeds during various segments of the journey, including a final leg on foot after a bike malfunction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for calculating average speed, including harmonic averages and setting up equations for each segment of the journey. Some express confusion about their calculations and the overall approach.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the problem and the assumptions involved. Some participants suggest creating equations based on the journey's segments, while others question the definitions of the cyclist's identity during the final leg of the journey.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of showing effort in problem-solving and express concerns about the implications of the cyclist's transition to walking. There is also mention of a provided answer in a textbook, which raises questions about reliance on external sources.

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So I have this homework exercise which I just can't seem to solve. It sound like this: "Half his time the cyclist was driving at the speed of 20km/h, half of the LEFTOVER way he drove at the speed of 16km/h. When his bike broke he finished his journey on foot at the speed of 4km/h. What was the average speed of the cyclist?" And I already know that the answer has to 13,2km/h but I just have 0 idea how to get this. Could someone show me how to do this? Thank You in advance!
 
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I realize you're not asking for the answer (which you already have anyway) but you have to show some effort. We don't spoon feed answers to people who show no work of their own.
 
Ok so I'll tell you what I've tried. I tried calculating the answer using the harmonic average. I got the answer of 8,3km/h. The I tried doing it this way:

1/v = (1/2v1) + (1/4v2) + (1/4v3)

Which gave me the answer of 9,7km/h. I'm pretty lost here...
 
Considering that you are not sure what you are doing, I think the way you are going about it is not helpful.

Write equations for each leg of the trip and add them up.
 
Zablas said:
And I already know that the answer has to 13,2km/h

I'd find another source to cheat off of.
 
Trick question?

"What was the average speed of the cyclist?"

On the final leg, is he still a cyclist? :woot:
 
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DaveC426913 said:
On the final leg, is he still a cyclist? :woot:
If you're walking a bicycle, you're either a cyclist or can't afford crutches for your broken leg.

But, is he a cyclist at all ? According to the problem, he's "driving".
 
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hmmm27 said:
I'd find another source to cheat off of.

Well the answer is given in the same book as this exercise...
 
No, it's not a trick question, but it is a little tricky.
As phinds wrote, you have to convert each piece of information to an equation. Start by creating variables to go in those equations.
I suggest T for total time, xi, i=1 to 3 for the three distances and vi for the three speeds. Then go through each fact in turn and express it as an equation.
 
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Zablas said:
Well the answer is given in the same book as this exercise...
I didn't mean to imply that you were technically cheating.

[edit: the answer given by the book is correct, despite what I said earler; I didn't read the question correctly the first time]
 
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haruspex said:
three distances and ... three speeds.
and also the three times. So as suggested, x1, x2, x3, for distances, v1, v2, v3, for velocities, t1, t2, t3 for times. One relevant equation would be x = v t used for each of the 3 portions of the trip.
 

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