What is the Best Wavelength for Heat Transfer in a Black Body Radiator?

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The discussion revolves around determining the best wavelength for heat transfer in a black body radiator, specifically in the context of a light bulb's power consumption and its relationship to emitted radiation. Participants explore concepts related to Stefan's law and Wien's displacement law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between power input and output for the bulb, questioning how to relate the power consumed to the power radiated. There is uncertainty regarding the relevant equations, particularly in applying Stefan's law and Wien's displacement law. Some participants attempt to calculate the bulb's temperature and discuss the implications of emissivity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on relevant laws and equations. There is an exploration of assumptions regarding the nature of the bulb and its emissivity, with some participants suggesting that the problem lacks sufficient information about the bulb's characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not specify the emissivity of the bulb, leading to discussions about the assumptions made regarding it being a perfect black body radiator. There is also mention of the need for clarity on how the bulb's characteristics affect radiation at different wavelengths.

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I am not sure about the relevant equations to be used here. At first sight, I thought I had to apply Stefan's law but then, the question states the power consumed by bulb, not the radiated one. I am completely clueless about what to do here. The first line states the peak wavelength, I have seen peak wavelength being used in Wien's displacement law but I am not sure about this.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 

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You know the power going into the bulb. How does that relate to the power coming out of the bulb?
Can you determine the temperature? What then does Stefan's Law tell you?
 
haruspex said:
You know the power going into the bulb.
Yes, its 60 watts (0.5*120)

How does that relate to the power coming out of the bulb?
And that's where I am stuck. Can you please give me some hints?
Can you determine the temperature?
Temperature of bulb? How? :confused:
 
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SteamKing said:
Check out Wien's Displacement Law. It contains a neat relationship between max. wavelength and temperature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wien's_displacement_law

Ah yes, so the temperature of bulb is ##2.898 \times 10^3 K##.

What next?

From Stefan's law,

$$P_e-P_a=\sigma A(T_e^4-T_a^4)$$

where ##P_e## is the rate at which heat energy is emitted, ##P_a## is the rate at which heat energy is absorbed. ##T_e## is the temperature of body and ##T_a## is temperature of air.

Now how do I find ##P_e## and ##P_a##?
 
I think for your light bulb, Pa = 0 and you are given the information on the power consumption of the bulb in the OP. I say Pa = 0 because the energy input to the bulb is converted to light, and air is transparent to light (i.e., light radiates without being absorbed by the air).
 
SteamKing said:
I think for your light bulb, Pa = 0 and you are given the information on the power consumption of the bulb in the OP. I say Pa = 0 because the energy input to the bulb is converted to light, and air is transparent to light (i.e., light radiates without being absorbed by the air).

Something like ##60=\sigma A((2.8998 \times 10^3)^4-(300)^4)##, right?
 
That would be my guess. You know the Boltzmann constant σ (or can look it up.)
 
SteamKing said:
That would be my guess. You know the Boltzmann constant σ (or can look it up.)

Thanks a lot SteamKing! That's the correct answer. :)

But I feel that the question didn't give enough information. Don't you think the problem should have specified the nature of bulb? I mean I had to consider it as a black body to reach the correct answer.
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'the nature of the bulb.'

Hot objects radiate energy as a black body at a certain temperature. The only thing missing that I can see was the emissivity value of the filament. Since, for this problem, the emissivity was apparently assumed to be 1, then you are dealing with a perfect black body radiator.
 
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SteamKing said:
I'm not sure what you mean by 'the nature of the bulb.'

Hot objects radiate energy as a black body at a certain temperature. The only thing missing that I can see was the emissivity value of the filament. Since, for this problem, the emissivity was apparently assumed to be 1, then you are dealing with a perfect black body radiator.
I agree the emissivity should be taken as 1 here, in the absence of any other indication, but in general objects can radiate better at specific wavelengths. A filament of a different metal would have a different colour at the same temperature.
 
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