What is the cdf of the area of a square with a uniform distribution over (0, 5)?

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The problem involves finding the cumulative distribution function (cdf) for the area of a square, where the side length is represented by a random variable with a uniform distribution over the interval (0, 5).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial attempt of squaring the cdf of the side length and question its validity, noting inconsistencies in the resulting probabilities.
  • Some participants suggest finding the cdf of the area by first determining the cdf of the side length and then applying transformations.
  • There is a discussion about the correct approach to relate the side length to the area, with some participants questioning the method of squaring the cdf.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. Some have acknowledged errors in their reasoning and are refining their understanding of the relationship between the side length and area.

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Participants note that the original poster is a high school student and express a need for additional resources to better understand the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


Let the random variable X represent the length of the side of a square. It has a uniform distribution over the interval (0, 5).

What is the cumulative distribution function for the area of the square, Y?


Homework Equations


F(x) = 0.2x (the cdf of the side).


The Attempt at a Solution


So I tried simply squaring F(x), giving 0.04x^2, which is incorrect since F(25) = 25 instead of 1. Also, it wouldn't make sense for the probability of the largest areas to have the highest probability, since:
P(4.9 < X < 5.0) = 0.02
Therefore P(4.9^2 < X < 5.0^2) = 0.02
But going by 0.04x^2 we get 0.08 or something.

Also, I couldn't find anything like this in my textbook (I'm a high school student), is there any good website to line this stuff from?

Thanks in advance.
 
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theloathedone said:

Homework Statement


Let the random variable X represent the length of the side of a square. It has a uniform distribution over the interval (0, 5).

What is the cumulative distribution function for the area of the square, Y?

Homework Equations


F(x) = 0.2x (the cdf of the side).

The Attempt at a Solution


So I tried simply squaring F(x), giving 0.04x^2, which is incorrect since F(25) = 25 instead of 1. Also, it wouldn't make sense for the probability of the largest areas to have the highest probability, since:
P(4.9 < X < 5.0) = 0.02
Therefore P(4.9^2 < X < 5.0^2) = 0.02
But going by 0.04x^2 we get 0.08 or something.

Also, I couldn't find anything like this in my textbook (I'm a high school student), is there any good website to line this stuff from?

Thanks in advance.

No, why are you squaring F(x)?

To handle this type of problem, we often try to find the cdf of S first, then (if the problem asks further for pdf function) we can obtain it by differentiating the cdf of S.

So, it goes like this:
\begin{align*}F_S(x) = P(S \le x) = P(X^2 \le x) &amp;= \left\{ \begin{array}{ll} 0 &amp; , \mbox{ if } x \le 0 \\ P(-\sqrt{x} \le X \le \sqrt{x}) &amp; , \mbox{ if } x &gt; 0 \end{array} \right. \\<br /> &amp;= \left\{ \begin{array}{ll} 0 &amp; , \mbox{ if } x \le 0 \\ P(-\sqrt{x} \le X \le 0) + P(0 &lt; X \le \sqrt{x}) &amp; , \mbox{ if } x &gt; 0 \end{array} \right. \\<br /> &amp;= ...<br /> \end{align}

Can you go from here, :)
 
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You are going the wrong way. In order that x^2&lt; a, we must have x&lt;\sqrt{a}. Take the square root of 0.2x, not the square!
 
Ah I see where I went wrong.

But it should be 0.2\sqrt{x} and not \sqrt{0.2x} right?

Thanks for the speedy responses!
 
theloathedone said:
Ah I see where I went wrong.

But it should be 0.2\sqrt{x} and not \sqrt{0.2x} right?

Thanks for the speedy responses!

Yup, that's correct. Congratulations. :)

But, remember that F_S(x) = 0.2\sqrt{x} on the interval (0; 25), it takes other values elsewhere.
 
yup. it's 0 for x < 0 and 1 for x > 25. Thanks for the help :)
 

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