What is the centripetal force exerted on a giant amoeba in a centrifuge?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a circular motion problem involving a giant amoeba in a centrifuge, specifically calculating the centripetal force exerted on it based on given parameters such as radius and rotational speed.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods for calculating velocity and centripetal force, questioning the use of period versus frequency in the formulas. There is a focus on the implications of rounding errors in calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion has led to clarification on the relationship between period and frequency, with some participants suggesting alternative approaches to avoid rounding issues. There is acknowledgment of different valid methods for the calculations, though no explicit consensus is reached on a singular approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for rounding errors when dealing with small numbers, which may affect the accuracy of the results. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations despite having checked them multiple times.

Bensky
Messages
82
Reaction score
0
[SOLVED] HELP! Circular motion problem.

Homework Statement


A test tube in a centrifuge is pivoted so that it swings out horizontally as the machine builds up speed. If the bottom of the tube is 165 mm from the central spin axis, and if the machine hits 59000 revolutions per minute, what would be the centripetal force exerted on a giant amoeba of mass 1.0 x 10^-8 kg at the bottom of the tube?

t=period=1/frequency
r=radius
V=velocity
m=mass=1.0 x 10^-8 kg


Homework Equations



V = (2*pi*r)/T
F=(mv^2)/r

The Attempt at a Solution



r=.165m (converted to m from mm by dividing by 1000)
m=1.0 X 10^-8
f = 983.3 revolutions per second (I changed 59000 rpm to revolutions per sec. by dividing by 60)
T (period) = 1/983.3 ~= .001

V=(2*pi*r)/T
V= ((2*pi)*.165)/0.001
V= 1036.725576 m/s

F=(mv^2)/r
F=((1 x 10^-8)(1036.725^2)) / .165
F=.0651393 N

Now, I've checked my math several times, so I don't think there's a problem with that - I also think I have the correct formulas. I'm thinking this is either a rounding error or I have the period wrong.

The answers I have tried so far: .065, .0651, and .07 - all are wrong somehow.

Can anyone explain what I have done wrong?
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
I get a different velocity than you. I think the ~0.001 s you are using for T is causing you trouble. Since T = 1/983.3 s just multiply your v = 2*pi*r by 983.3 instead of dividing by 0.001. This will keep more figures.
 
hage567 said:
I get a different velocity than you. I think the ~0.001 s you are using for T is causing you trouble. Since T = 1/983.3 s just multiply your v = 2*pi*r by 983.3 instead of dividing by 0.001. This will keep more figures.

So you're saying do 2*pi*r*f instead of 2*pi*r/T?

I would think you meant divide by f, but why would I divide by f if the formula tells me to divide by the period?
 
No, you're not dividing by f. You can either divide by T or multiply by f, since f = 1/T.

v = 2*pi*r*(1/T) (the way you did it)

which is the same as v = 2*pi*r*f

It's just one way to avoid the 0.001 s. Which I think is you're problem because you rounded it.

Hopefully I'm not confusing you.
 
hage567 said:
No, you're not dividing by f. You can either divide by T or multiply by f, since f = 1/T.

v = 2*pi*r*(1/T) (the way you did it)

which is the same as v = 2*pi*r*f

It's just one way to avoid the 0.001 s. Which I think is you're problem because you rounded it.

Hopefully I'm not confusing you.

Thank you! Turns out it was a rounding error and when I did it the way you did it it worked fine. I will use that formula from now on.
 
There's nothing wrong with the way you were doing it. Either way works and both can be useful. Just be aware of rounding when you're using small numbers.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
978
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
5K
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
2K