What is the charge on the other sphere after adding electrons?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the transfer of electrons between two spheres to create an attractive force. Participants are exploring the relationship between the charges on the spheres after electrons are added or removed, treating the spheres as point charges.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the implications of charge transfer between the spheres and how it affects their net charges. Questions arise about the correctness of the calculations and the interpretation of the additive constant mentioned in the homework feedback.

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Some participants are clarifying the concept of equal and opposite charges resulting from the transfer of electrons. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the charge on the second sphere in relation to the first, with hints provided about the nature of charge conservation.

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There is mention of specific numerical values for charge and the number of electrons involved, as well as frustration with the online homework system's feedback regarding additive constants.

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Im doing some online homework and it says my answer is off by an additive constant?
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How many electrons would have to be removed from one sphere and added to the other to cause an attractive force between the spheres of magnitude 1.00 *10^4 Newtons? Assume that the spheres may be treated as point charges.

I caluclated the charge in one sphere to be 8.43*10^-2. Then calculated how many electrons are needed to get this charge which is 5.268*10^17.

Assume that after some electrons have been removed from it, the first sphere ends up with a net charge of q_1. What would be the charge on the other sphere, q_2, after these extra electrons are added to it?

I entered q_2=(q_1 - 5.268*10^17). It says I am off by an additive constant? Did i lose you guys, or do u know what's wrong?
 
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It means you're off by some number that can be added or subtracted from your answer
 
red ink said:
I entered q_2=(q_1 - 5.268*10^17). It says I am off by an additive constant? Did i lose you guys, or do u know what's wrong?

Where'd you get this from? Doesn't make any sense to me.

Hint: If you take 3 electrons off one sphere and slap them onto the other, then obviously suddenly there's a net charge of +3e on the first sphere, and since the second one gets the three extra electrons the first one lost, its net charge is obviously then -3e. Can you see that since you're just transferring charge from one sphere to the other, the net charge on one sphere has to be equal and opposite to that on the other?
 
assuming this is the correct number of electrons needed , 5.268*10^17 ,to create the force, what would q_2 be then?
I totally understand the concept u mentioned, but the online program said i have to have q_1 in my answer to what q_2 equals
E.g.
q_2= q_1 ?
what goes in place of the question marks? rrrr...online homework sucks
 
red ink said:
q_2= q_1 ?

Close. Equal and OPPOSITE.
 
if q_1= 5.268*10^17
then q_2= -5.268*10^17
are there any nessesary constants i need to express in my answer?
 

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