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The discussion centers around the closed forms of two infinite sums: the sum of the reciprocals of Fibonacci numbers and the sum of the reciprocals of n raised to the power of n. Participants explore known constants and identities related to these sums without reaching definitive conclusions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces the infinite sum of the reciprocals of Fibonacci numbers, noting it equals the Reciprocal Fibonacci Constant, which is known to be irrational but not expressible in simpler terms.
  • Another participant confirms the convergence of the second sum (1/(n^n)) but states that no closed form solution is known.
  • A participant mentions finding an identity related to the second series, suggesting that it can be expressed as an integral, although they have not yet proven it.

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Participants generally agree on the irrationality of the Reciprocal Fibonacci Constant and the convergence of the second series, but there is no consensus on the existence of a closed form for the second sum, with multiple views on its representation.

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There are limitations regarding the proof of the identity mentioned for the second series, and the discussion lacks clarity on whether the constants can be expressed in terms of more elementary constants.

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Infinite Sum [n=1] 1/Fibonacci[n]

Or this,

Infinite Sum[n=1] 1/(n^n)

Using some known mathematical constants.
 
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Welcome to Physics forums sam! Perhaps you don't exactly know, or you just want to give us problems we can't do to torture us, but:

The first sum is equal to a known mathematical constant, and its called the Reciprocal Fibonacci Constant:
\psi = \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{F_k} = 3.359885666243 \dots, which has been proven to be irrational, but it is currently not known if that constant is expressible in terms of more elementary or common constants.

The second One I know converges, though I have never seen a closed form solution for.
 
Hi Gib_Z,

Sorry, I didn't mean to torture you

And thanks for the explanation. I was wondering about this the other day and thought what better place to ask about it than here.
 
This place is about the best place to ask in my opinion as well =] You are really quite lucky, if I hadn't read through the wikipedia article on the Fibonacci numbers just last week, I would not have even remembered about that constant =]
 
Doing some crawling on the internet I have found out for sure that there is no closed form for the second series, though there is a nice identity that I am attempting at this moment to prove, the derivation isn't given...I should have it by tomorrow, but here's the identity now:

\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{n^n} = \int^1_0 x^{-x} dx
 

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