What is the coefficient of kinetic friction on a 30 degree ramp?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a box sliding down a ramp and determining the coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the ramp. The solution involves calculating the forces of gravity in the X direction using the equation F=m(9.81)(sin30.0), and then solving for the force of kinetic friction using the equation F_k=(a_withoutfriction-a_with friction)m. The final answer is determined to be 0.436, but the person asking the question is unsure of the reasoning behind some of the steps in the solution. They mention that they and their friends were able to figure out most of the problem and appreciate the person's response to their question.
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A box slides down a 30.0 degree ramp with an acceleration of 1.20 m/s^2. Determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the ramp.

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Ok so what i did was different from what my teacher has, but I can't explain it.
(the answer is supposed to be .436, which is what i got)

1) F=m(9.81)(sin30.0) ...divide by m... a=4.9m/s^2 that would be the ramp with no friction right?

2) so then... F_k=(a_withoutfriction-a_with friction)m --> F_k (4.9-1.2)m= (3.7m/s^2)(m) and that would be the force of kinetic friction (I think).

3) [tex]\mu[/tex]=F_k/F_n --> (3.7)(m)/(9.81)(cos30)(m)= .436

Ok so i got the right answer but I can't explain it. Just for starters, why in step 1, did it have to be sin30? would it be cos30 to find the accleration in the x direction?
 
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why in step 1, did it have to be sin30?

If you translate your coordinate system, where the X axis is on the incline you will get mgsin(t) for the forces of gravity in the X direction.

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Ok me a two of my freinds got together tonight and figured out most the theorizing and problems with the problem. And yeah, that diagram was basically what we came up with.

But I really appreciate you taking your time to respond to my question. Thank you!
 

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