What is the concept of infinity in mathematics?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of infinity in mathematics, exploring its nature, definitions, and implications in various mathematical contexts. Participants examine whether infinity can be considered a real number and discuss its role in mathematical operations and theories.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that infinity is not a real number, questioning its place within the number system and suggesting it may be better understood as a concept rather than a value.
  • Others propose that infinity can be viewed as a process of 'going on forever', indicating its conceptual nature rather than a numerical one.
  • One participant mentions that infinity is defined differently in various mathematical frameworks, such as hyper-real numbers, which include both infinite and infinitesimal values.
  • There is a suggestion that infinity is often treated as a symbol in mathematics, governed by specific rules, which raises questions about its conceptual understanding.
  • Another participant highlights the limitations of using infinity in practical calculations, particularly in physics, where real-world applications are finite.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of infinity, with multiple competing views presented regarding its definition and role in mathematics.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations in the discussion include the varying definitions of infinity across different mathematical systems and the unresolved nature of how infinity interacts with standard arithmetic operations.

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Infinity is not a real number right? Then where do infinity stand (complex no?) . Why infinity is not a real number , I thought of it as a very very big real number! Ignore my poor communication skills.
 
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I'm not a mathematician, but I found this site interesting https://www.mathsisfun.com/numbers/infinity.html.
Also, many calculations in physics which involves infinity, in reality is not exactly true as for instance our universe and the time continuum are finite.
 
No, infinity is NOT a "very very big real number". All the real numbers have the property that, for any real number, x, x+ 1 is even larger. There are a variety of ways of defining positive and negative "infinity" geometrically, for example, in such a way that the set of all real numbers and positive and negative "infinity" is 'homeomorphic' to the interval [a, b] for any real numbers, a, b, a< b. But one can also define a single "infinity" so that the set of all real numbers and this one "infinity" is homeomorphic to a circle in a plane. Once can define "hyper-real" numbers that include notions of "infinite numbers" as well as "infinitesimal numbers" that satisfy certain arithmetic rules. But in none of those cases can you do "regular" arithmetic, with the usual arithmetic rules for the real numbers, with "infinity".
 
It's better to think of infinity as the conceptual process of 'going on forever'. Sometimes you'll hear it called an extension to the reals in more formal systems so that it can be used when doing math. Most people get their first taste of infinity young ## (1, 2, 3, 4, ... ) ##, but the lemniscate isn't usually used until the end of high school in precalculus classes where the notion of the difference quotient and limit are introduced.
 
In mathematics ## \infty## is just a symbol that mathematicians use according some rules, what is the concept of infinity? This the difficult question ...
 

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