What is the Concept of Zero Double Trace in Tensor Analysis?

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The discussion centers on the concept of "zero double trace" in tensor analysis, particularly regarding a rank four tensor with symmetries similar to the Riemann tensor. Participants explore the idea of iterated contractions, suggesting that the term may refer to a process involving multiple contractions of tensor indices. The Weyl tensor, known for being "completely traceless," is proposed as a potential candidate for the tensor in question. There is a request for further clarification or alternative interpretations regarding the term "double trace." Overall, the conversation seeks to deepen understanding of this tensor property within the context of advanced theoretical physics.
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Hello all,

I have recently encountered a tensor which is said to have the property "zero double trace". I am unfamiliar with the concept of a double trace and was hoping someone here could help.

Thanks
 
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What kind of tensor is it? Does it have a specific name?
How many indices does it have?
 
Hi thanks for the reply.

I don't think it has a proper name, but it has all the symmetries of the Riemann tensor. It is rank four and the indices run from 0:3.

Thanks
 
Iterated contraction

This can only mean, I think, an iterated contraction, e.g.
<br /> {P^{ab}}_{cd} <br /> \mapsto {Q^a}_d = {P^{am}}_{md} <br /> \mapsto R = {Q^m}_m<br />
But as you can see by permuting the indices, there are in general many such double contractions!

Incidently, the obvious guess is that you are reading about the Weyl tensor, aka conformal curvature tensor, which shares all the symmetries of the Riemann tensor but which is also "completely traceless". Did you see the concurrent thread on that object?
 
Is this what everyone else thinks the mysterious 'double trace' must be? I came across it in a paper on the standard model extension by A. Kostelecky and M. Mewes...

Does anyone have any other ideas about what they could be talking about?
 
I am studying the mathematical formalism behind non-commutative geometry approach to quantum gravity. I was reading about Hopf algebras and their Drinfeld twist with a specific example of the Moyal-Weyl twist defined as F=exp(-iλ/2θ^(μν)∂_μ⊗∂_ν) where λ is a constant parametar and θ antisymmetric constant tensor. {∂_μ} is the basis of the tangent vector space over the underlying spacetime Now, from my understanding the enveloping algebra which appears in the definition of the Hopf algebra...

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