What Is the Correct Banked Curve Angle for a Car Traveling at 64 km/hr?

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The problem involves determining the correct banking angle θ for a car traveling at a speed of 64 km/hr on a curve with a radius of 50 m, without relying on friction. The context includes the application of forces acting on the car and the relationship between speed, radius, and angle in circular motion.

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  • Participants discuss the use of free body diagrams (FBD) and the balance of forces. There is an exploration of the relationship between the angle, speed, and radius through the equation tan(θ) = v²/(rg). Some participants question the unit conversion from km/hr to m/s as a potential source of error.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights and corrections regarding unit conversion and the application of the relevant equations. There is acknowledgment of a mistake related to unit conversion, which may have contributed to an incorrect answer.

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The discussion highlights the importance of unit consistency in calculations, particularly when converting speed from kilometers per hour to meters per second. There is an emphasis on understanding the forces involved in the banking of curves.

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Homework Statement


A curve of radius r is banked at angle θ so that a car traveling with uniform speed v can
round the curve without relying on friction to keep it from slipping to its left or right.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s2. If r = 50 m and v = 64 km/hr, what is θ?
Answer in units of ◦.

For this one, I drew a FBD. In my picture, Fny and Fg canceled each out, so the unbalanced force was Fnx. I used N2nd Fnet=ma and used components:
Fnx=max
Fnsintheta=max
Fny= mg
Fncostheta=mg
then i divided them:
Fsintheta max
--------- = --------
Fcostheta mg
The masses canceled out on the right and on the left I had tantheta.
on the right, ax/g= v^2/rg
When I plugged in numbers, I got theta= approx 90 degrees. However, when I submit this answer, it is wrong..could someone help me find out where I messed up?
 
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It's hard to follow your work but it looks like your resultant equation is correct: tan(x) = v^2/rg. Make sure to convert the km/hr to m/s before doing the calculation.
 
Maiia said:

Homework Statement


A curve of radius r is banked at angle θ so that a car traveling with uniform speed v can
round the curve without relying on friction to keep it from slipping to its left or right.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s2. If r = 50 m and v = 64 km/hr, what is θ?
Answer in units of ◦.

For this one, I drew a FBD. In my picture, Fny and Fg canceled each out, so the unbalanced force was Fnx. I used N2nd Fnet=ma and used components:
Fnx=max
Fnsintheta=max
Fny= mg
Fncostheta=mg
then i divided them:
Fsintheta max
--------- = --------
Fcostheta mg
The masses canceled out on the right and on the left I had tantheta.
on the right, ax/g= v^2/rg
When I plugged in numbers, I got theta= approx 90 degrees. However, when I submit this answer, it is wrong..could someone help me find out where I messed up?

The force down the bank will be m*g*sinθ and the force from centrifugal acceleration is your m*v²*cosθ/r

That means that you have v²/(r*g) = tanθ

So to find θ that would be the tan-1( v²/(r*g)) = θ
 
oh that would be the problem, not converting the units >< thanks to both of you for your help! :)
 

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