Banked Curve perfectly banked

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The problem involves a banked curve where a car is traveling at different speeds, and the goal is to determine the coefficient of static friction required to prevent skidding. The context is related to circular motion and friction on inclined surfaces.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive equations based on forces acting on the car, questioning the meaning of "perfectly banked" and whether it refers to a specific angle or coefficient of friction. Some participants suggest that "perfectly banked" implies no friction is needed, while others emphasize the importance of unit conversion and finding the banking angle.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided insights into the meaning of "perfectly banked" and the need for unit conversions, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to solving the problem.

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There is a mention of the radius being 88 meters, and the original poster is seeking clarification on the implications of the banking angle and friction in the context of the problem.

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Banked Curve "perfectly banked"

Homework Statement



if a curve with a radius of 88. is perfectly banked for a car traveling 75km/h, what must be the coefficient of static friction for a car not to skid when traveling 95km/h?

Homework Equations


ƩF=ma and a=v^2/r and Ff=μFn

The Attempt at a Solution


below is my attempt but i also want to know what they mean when they say "perfectly banked" is that a specific angle or a specific coefficient of friction? because i can't seem to get anywhere.

a=752/88 Fnx=Fnsinθ, Fny=Fncosθ, Ffx=Ffcosθ, Ffy=Ffsinθ.
in the x-direction:
ƩF=ma
Fnx+Ffx=ma
Fnsinθ+μFncosθ=m(752/88)
(88Fn(sinθ+μcosθ))/752)=m

in the y-direction
ƩF=ma
Fny-Ffy-Fg=ma (no acc in y-dir)
Fncosθ-μFnsinθ=mg
(Fn(cosθ-μsinθ))/g=m

set the 2 equations equal to each other:
(88Fn(sinθ+μcosθ))/(752)=(Fn(cosθ-μsinθ))/(9.8) (Fn divides out)
(88)(9.8)sinθ+(88)(9.8)μcos=752(cosθ)-752(μsinθ)
common factor, take sin and cos out of brackets on both sides, divide:
tanθ=(752-(88)(9.8)μ)/(752μ+(88)(9.8)

and that's as far as i got help me please!
 
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oh and the answer is 0.22
 


Radius of 88 what? Meters?

I think by perfectly banked they mean no friction.

Remember to convert units as well.

Start by finding what angle its banked at.
 


yes it is 88m
 


and thank you
 

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