What Is the Damping Constant for Critical Damping in a Freight Car's Motion?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a freight car's motion and the concept of critical damping. The scenario describes a freight car weighing 10^4 kg that compresses a spring with a given spring constant as it comes to a stop. Participants are tasked with finding the damping constant for critical damping and analyzing the behavior of the system under different damping conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the critical damping constant and expresses uncertainty about how to determine the maximum compression of the spring. Other participants suggest solving the differential equation and express the solution in terms of trigonometric functions. Questions arise about the implications of different damping conditions on the motion of the freight car.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing hints and suggestions for solving the differential equation. There is a focus on understanding the conditions for critical damping and the behavior of the system when the damping constant varies. No explicit consensus has been reached, but various lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement, which includes specific values for mass and spring constant, as well as the requirement to analyze the system under critical damping and other damping scenarios. The original poster expresses concern about missing obvious elements of the problem.

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Homework Statement


I'm a little ashamed to post this, because I bet I'm missing something obvious, so try not to laugh...

A freely rolling freight car weighing 10^4 kg arrives at the end of it's track with a speed of 2 m/s. At the end of he track is a snubber consisting of a firmly anchored spring with k = 1.6 x 10^4 kg/s^2. The car compresses the spring. If friction is proportional to the velocity, find the damping constant b_{c} for critical damping. Find the maximum distance by which the spring is compressed (for b = b_{c}). Show that if b > b_{c} the car will come to a stop, but if b < b_{c} the car will rebound and roll back on the track. (the car is not fastened to the spring. As long as it pushes on the spring, it moves according to the harmonic oscillator equation, but it will not pull on the spring).


Homework Equations


<br /> \frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} + 2\beta\frac{dx}{dt} + \omega^{2}x = 0 <br />

Also, for critical damping, \omega^{2} = \beta^{2}

\beta = b/2m, where b is the damping constant.

The Attempt at a Solution


from the above, i calculated the critical damping constant b = 2.53 x 10^4 (1/s). I'm not sure how to find how far the spring is compressed due to that, and I don't know how I could attempt the remaining parts of the problem. Hints?

Thanks for your time.
 
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Solve the differential equation with the given initial conditions. An elementary differential equations text will show how to solve the equation and address the underdamped, critically damped, and over damped conditions.
 
well, i know the general solution for the differential equation is
x(t)= e^{-t * \beta}[A_{1}exp(\sqrt{\beta^2 - \omega^2}) + A_{2}exp(-\sqrt{\beta^2 - \omega^2})

Should I use this to find the compression of the spring?
 
It's a little easier to express the solution for x in terms of cosine and sine. Your expression is for the distance the spring compresses so use it to find the compression distance. Hint: what is the velocity of the object when the fully compressed?
 
the velocity of the freight car would be zero when the spring is fully compressed.

so if the velocity is zero when the spring is completely compressed, then the first equation would be
\frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} + 2\beta(0)+ \omega^{2}x = 0
= \frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} + \omega^{2}x = 0

which is the equation for an undamped simple harmonic oscillator. the general solution of this is

x(t) = A cos(\omega t)
so the compression would be x = A cos (1.6 t) ? Am I going in the right direction? Or am I just completely off track?

I've attempted the second part of the question, about the damping constant changing. for b < b_{c}, \sqrt{\beta ^2 - \omega ^2} is imaginary, so
x(t) = Ae^{- \beta t}cos (\omegat-d). So for this case, since the car isn't attached to the spring, it would bounce back and then keep going back on the track. Is my logic/ math correct? Thanks again.
 
Eliminating the velocity term of the differential equation gives a different equation of motion, that of a simple oscillator. Use the solution you found, express it in terms of cosine and sine terms rather than complex exponents (makes the math more clear). Determine the constants for the cosine and sine terms from the initial conditions when the object first contacts the spring. Differentiate x(t) with respect to time to obtain the v(t) (with friction proportional to velocity). Set v(t) = 0 to find the time of travel then place t in x(t) to find the distance traveled.
 

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