MHB What is the difference between log and ln?

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The difference between "log" and "ln" primarily lies in their bases: "ln(x)" denotes the natural logarithm with base e, while "log(x)" can refer to either base 10 or base e, depending on the context. In pre-calculus and elementary calculus, "log(x)" typically represents the logarithm base 10, whereas in higher-level mathematics, it often signifies the natural logarithm. In computer science, "log(x)" frequently refers to logarithm base 2. The differentiation rules for these logarithms also differ, with "ln(x)" having a simpler derivative compared to "log_{10}(x)." Understanding the context is crucial for correctly interpreting the notation used.
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In simple words, what is the difference between log and ln?
 
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In one notational convention:

$$\ln(x)=\log_{e}(x)$$

$$\log(x)=\log_{10}(x)$$

This is typically what you see in pre-calculus and elementary calculus courses.

In another convention:

$$\log(x)=\log_{e}(x)$$

This is what you'll find at W|A (but it will recognize ln as well). When you get into analysis, this is what you'll likely find used there.

In computer science, you may see:

$$\log(x)=\log_{2}(x)$$

So, it really depends on the context...and the notation "log" often means the most commonly used base in that particular environment.
 
MarkFL said:
In one notational convention:

$$\ln(x)=\log_{e}(x)$$

$$\log(x)=\log_{10}(x)$$

This is typically what you see in pre-calculus and elementary calculus courses.

In another convention:

$$\log(x)=\log_{e}(x)$$

This is what you'll find at W|A (but it will recognize ln as well). When you get into analysis, this is what you'll likely find used there.

In computer science, you may see:

$$\log(x)=\log_{2}(x)$$

So, it really depends on the context...and the notation "log" often means the most commonly used base in that particular environment.

Good information.
 
The reason why "[math]\log(x)= \ln(x)[/math]" in higher courses (calculus and beyond) and "[math]\log_{10}(x)[/math]" is just dropped is that [math]\ln(x)[/math] satisfies the simple differentiation rule [math]\frac{d\ln(x)}{dx}= \frac{1}{x}[/math] while if the base is 10, [math]\frac{d \log_{10}(x)}{dx}= \frac{1}{\ln(10)x}[/math].
 
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