What is the Dimension of the Subspace of M2;2 with Zero Diagonal Entries?

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The discussion centers on determining the dimension of the subspace of 2 by 2 matrices with zero diagonal entries, exploring the basis for this subspace and the relationships between matrix forms and vector representations.

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  • One participant asks for help in finding the dimension and basis of the subspace of M2;2 consisting of matrices with zero diagonal entries.
  • Another participant suggests using Gaussian elimination to determine the number of parameters that define the subspace.
  • A question is posed regarding the difference between a 2 by 2 matrix and a column vector with 4 entries, implying a connection between the two representations.
  • One participant proposes that matrices of the form [0 b; c 0] can generate the subspace, suggesting that the dimension is 2.
  • Another participant agrees with the dimension being 2 and emphasizes that the proposed matrices not only generate the subspace but that no smaller set can generate the whole space.
  • A further elaboration is provided on how any matrix in the subspace can be expressed as a linear combination of two specific matrices, clarifying the basis concept.
  • A participant inquires about the result of span(spanV), indicating a potential exploration of vector space properties.
  • One participant reiterates the suggestion to use Gaussian elimination, indicating a focus on methodical approaches to the problem.

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Participants generally agree on the dimension being 2 and the form of the matrices that generate the subspace. However, there are varying approaches and methods suggested for understanding the basis and dimension, indicating some level of debate on the best way to arrive at the conclusion.

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Some discussions involve assumptions about the definitions of basis and dimension, and the relationship between matrix forms and vector representations may depend on specific interpretations of linear algebra concepts.

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Find the dimension of the subspace of M2;2 consisting of all 2 by 2 matrices
whose diagonal entries are zero. ?

i know that the dimension is the number of vectors that are the basis for this subspace ,but i cannot figure out what is the basis for this subspace ?

any help will be appreciated ,
thanks in advance
 
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Try doing a generalized row-reduction using Gaussian elimination, to see how many parameters determine the subspace.
 
Question:

What's the difference between a 2 by 2 matrix and a column vector with 4 entries?

Presumably, you know how to find a basis for all the column vectors with 4 entries.
 
so , Such a matrix is of the form
[0 b]
[c 0] for some b, c.

Since these matrices are generated by
[0 1].[0 0]
[0 0],[1 0], the dimension equals 2. is that a right answer ?
 
Yes, that's it.
 
I don't mean to use rigor, for rigor's sake, but I think it is important to note that not only
do those matrices generate, but that no smaller ( in size/cardinality) set generates the whole space.
 
Specifically, any matrix in that set can be written
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}0 & a \\ b & 0\end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}0 & a \\ 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}+ \begin{bmatrix}0 & 0 \\ b & 0 \end{bmatrix}= a\begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 \\ 0 & 0\end{bmatrix}+ b\begin{bmatrix}0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}[/tex]
which makes it clear what a basis is.
 
WHAT IS THE RESULT span(spanV)=?
 
Try doing a generalized row-reduction using Gaussian elimination.
 

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