What is the distance between the ship and the submarine using a laser?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a laser communication setup between a ship and a submarine located at the bottom of a lake. The scenario includes specific measurements such as the height of the laser above the water, the distance from the ship to the point where the laser hits the water, the depth of the water, and the index of refraction of water.

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  • Participants explore the use of Snell's Law to determine the angle of refraction as the laser enters the water. There is uncertainty about whether to apply the mirror equation and how to construct the relevant triangles for calculating distances. Some participants question the treatment of the problem as involving two separate triangles rather than one combined triangle.

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Participants are actively discussing various approaches to the problem, including the application of Snell's Law and the geometric relationships involved. There is a request for clarification on the original poster's calculations, indicating that further exploration of the problem is ongoing without a clear resolution yet.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the angles involved in Snell's Law and the setup of the triangles, which may affect the calculations. The original poster expresses difficulty in arriving at the correct answer despite attempts to apply the discussed concepts.

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In the figure, a laser positioned on a ship is used to communicate with a small two-man research submarine resting on the bottom of a lake. The laser is positioned 12 m above the surface of the water, and it strikes the water 20 m from the side of the ship. The water is 76 m deep and has an index of refraction of 1.33. How far horizontally is the submarine from the side of the ship?

-I am not sure weather to use the mirror equation or not. I have tired to figure out the angle the laser makes with the vertical and then combined that into a big triangle with height of 88 to find the horizontal distance but that didn't seem to get the right answer.
 
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What happens to a light ray entering water (or almost any transparent medium, for that matter)?
 
It bends.
 
i also attempted using snells law to find the refracted angle...
 
Right. You should be able to work out the angle of incidence, and Snell's Law gives you the angle of the ray in the water. Add the refracted ray to the diagram, and you should be able to see how to calculate the distance.

Remember to be careful about which angle Snell's Law needs.
 
Yes i did that and i still didn't get the correct answer.
 
Show exactly what you did.
 
As Doc Al says, show your working. We're guessing what you did, and we could be here all day.

I will make one more guess, though. You said you made one big triangle, but there are two non-congruent triangles - ship-to-surface and surface-to-sub. Are you treating them separately?
 

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