What is the distance moved up the plane (friction problem)

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The problem involves a particle projected up an inclined plane, with considerations of friction and energy. The subject area includes dynamics and the application of the work-energy theorem in the context of inclined planes.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of frictional force and its implications on the motion of the particle. There are attempts to apply the work-energy theorem and SUVAT equations, with some questioning the role of friction in these calculations.

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Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including energy considerations and the effects of friction. There is a recognition of discrepancies between calculated results and expected answers, prompting further inquiry into the assumptions made.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of the work-energy theorem and how friction should be integrated into the calculations. The problem setup includes specific values for mass, angle, initial speed, and coefficient of friction, which are critical to the discussion.

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A particle P of mass 3 kg is projected up the line of greatest slope of a plane inclined at an angle of 50° to the horizontal. The coefficient of friction between P and the plane is 0.5. The intiial speed of P is 9 m/s.

ii) Find the frictional force acting on P

ii) What distance moved up the plane by P until its velocity becomes zero.


Homework Equations



f = μ x N where N is the normal

N = m x g x cos(50)


The Attempt at a Solution



i)

N = m x g x cos(50) = 19.28 N

f = 0.5 x 19.28 = 9.64 N


ii) Here I do not know what to do. I thought I could take -5 m/s^2 as a deceleration by using :

f = μ x N

m x a = 0.5 x m x g

a = 5 m/s^2

and then using SUVAT equations but this is wrong since I do not get the answer shown in my book..

Please help!

Thank you!
 
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I did think of that..but shouldn't friction still be taken into account? Because I did the following :

1/2 x m x v^2 = mgh

h = v^2 (2g) = 4.05 where v = 9 m/s and g = 10

and then in order to find the hypotenuse i used

Hypotenuse = 4.05 / sin(50)

But this gives me 5.28 m and the answer is 3.72 m
 

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