What is the Divisibility Rule for the Reflection of an Integer?

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The discussion revolves around the divisibility properties related to the reflection of an integer, particularly focusing on the difference between a five-digit integer and its reflection. Participants explore the mathematical reasoning behind why this difference is divisible by certain numbers, specifically examining the case of divisibility by 9.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about the divisibility of the difference between a five-digit integer and its reflection, questioning why it should only be divisible by one number in every case.
  • One participant provides a mathematical breakdown of the difference, suggesting it can be expressed as a combination of terms involving powers of ten and the digits of the number.
  • Another participant concludes that the difference is divisible by 9 based on their calculations, but this is met with a simple affirmation rather than a detailed discussion.
  • There is a mention that the property of divisibility by 9 holds not only for five-digit numbers but for all natural numbers, as both the original number and its reflection share the same digit sum.
  • Some participants discuss the context of the problem, noting it is from a practice GRE exam and also common in math contests for younger students.
  • Questions arise about the equivalence of a number and its digit sum modulo 9, with some participants attempting to clarify this concept and explore simpler explanations.
  • One participant elaborates on the congruence of powers of ten modulo 9, providing a mathematical justification for why each digit's contribution is congruent to itself modulo 9.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the divisibility by 9 for the difference between a number and its reflection, but there is no consensus on the clarity of the underlying reasoning or the best way to explain it. Some participants express doubts about the context of the problem being from the GRE math subject test.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the clarity of the mathematical reasoning behind the equivalence of a number and its digit sum modulo 9, as well as the specific context of the problem's origin in standardized testing.

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"Reflection of an Integer"

I haven't encountered this before. I'm not sure how to approach it. At this point it's not even clear to me why the result should only be divisible by one number in *every* case.

The reflection of a positive integer is obtained by reversing its
digits. For example, the reflection of 321 would be 123. The
difference between a 5 digit integer and its reflection must be
divisible by which of the following?

A. 2
B. 4
C. 5
D. 6
E. 9
 
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The number abcde is really 10^{4}a + 10^{3}b + 10^{2}c + 10^{1}d + 10^{0}e. You know what to do...
 
so the difference becomes...

10^4 (a-e) + 10^3 (b-d) + 10^2 (c-c) + 10 (d-b) + (e-a)

= (10^4 - 1)(a-e) + (10^3 - 10)(b-d)

= 9999(a-e) + 990(b-d)

I guess that means the answer is divisible by 9. Did I do this right?
 
Yes.
 
That's it. Of course, with multiple choice looking for counterexamples might even be faster... heh.
 
Hi Cepheid,

I find such problems interesting. Where did you find it?
Do you have a website for it?
 
Edgardo,

This is a problem from a practice GRE exam. These exams are administered by ETS. However, I think that such problems are also common in math contests that are intended for junior high/high school students. Try a search for math contests on the net.
 
cepheid said:
Edgardo,

This is a problem from a practice GRE exam. These exams are administered by ETS. However, I think that such problems are also common in math contests that are intended for junior high/high school students. Try a search for math contests on the net.

this is in the math GRE?
 


ice109 said:
this is in the math GRE?

Yes it is, I got it in the practice section right now as the third question, and if you don't know your first 10 questions are the most important (28 total, 45 mins to complete). Suffice to say this test is going to kick my *** at 12PM tomorrow... but hey, I'm a psych major.
 
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And note that this is true not only for 5 digit numbers, it's true for all natural numbers.

For any natural number the digit sum and the original number are equivalent modulo nine. Since the number and it's reflection both have the same digit sum it follows that there are equal modulo 9, hence their differnece must be a multiple of nine.
 
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ice109 said:
this is in the math GRE?

pwrstick said:
Yes it is

Somehow I doubt that such questions are asked in the GRE math *subject test*. This problem was from the math (quantitative reasoning) section of a GRE *general* test (which, I think, is what pwrstick was talking about).
 
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uart said:
For any natural number the digit sum and the original number are equivalent modulo nine.

How do you know this? I mean, I convinced myself of it by figuring that the difference between the number and the sum of the digits can be expressed as:

Sum over all digits{ [(some power of ten) - 1]digit }

Therefore the difference between the actual number and its digit sum will always be a multiple of nine, hence they are equivalent modulo nine.

Is there a simpler/more obvious way of explaining your statement, though?
 
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Any power of ten is congruent to 1 (mod 9).
 
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cepheid said:
How do you know this?

Just elaborating on what Adrian said.

10^n = 9*(\underbrace{111...1}_{\mbox{n ones}}) + 1 = 9 k_n +1.

So the quantity represented by the nth digit (in a decimal number) is 10^n d_n = 9k_n d_n + d_n. That is, for each digit the quantity represented by that digit is congruent to the digit itself (mod 9).

Cepheid, this property is used in a wide variety of "number tricks" and was used for centuries before computers and calculators as a quick easy "checksum" for testing the integrety of long hand calculations. See casting out nines : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casting_out_nines"
 
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Hey uart,

Thanks for the link and for adding something useful to a dredged up thread from a year ago.
 

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