What is the elliptical distribution of lift along a wing?

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The discussion revolves around the elliptical distribution of lift along a wing, exploring its implications for lift distribution, wingtip vortices, and the geometry of airfoils. Participants engage with both theoretical and practical aspects of aerodynamics, including comparisons between different wing designs.

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  • One participant inquires about the nature of the elliptical lift distribution, suggesting that it implies maximum lift at the center of the wing and a reduction towards the wingtips, potentially minimizing wingtip vortices.
  • Another participant agrees that lift tapers off towards the tip but notes that it does not necessarily reach zero, and raises a question about the symmetry of airfoil geometry at the tips.
  • A question is posed regarding the effectiveness of winglets versus elliptical lift distribution in reducing wingtip vortices, with a preference expressed for winglets due to their potential for increased lift.
  • One participant suggests that the choice between winglets and elliptical wings may depend on the specific aircraft and its operational conditions.
  • A side note introduces the concept of the elliptical normal distribution from probability theory, indicating that it may have caused confusion in initial searches for information on aerodynamics.

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Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of elliptical lift distribution versus winglets in reducing wingtip vortices, indicating that no consensus has been reached on which approach is superior.

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Participants acknowledge the complexity of the topic, including the dependence on specific aircraft designs and operational regimes, as well as the potential for confusion with unrelated concepts from probability theory.

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what exactly is the elliptical distribution in relation with the lift distribution along the span of a wing. i googled it but all it comes is something related to the calculus n all mathematics(lets face it, i just got rid of maths n i m happy now).
does it mean that the lift produced is max at the centre n reduces to 0 as we reach the wingtip(coz thatway wingtip vortices ll be small)? is that why the airfoil geometry approaches symmetry about the chord line as it approaches the wingtip??
 
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That is correct. The lift tapers off towards the tip (not necessarily zero). I can't comment on the symmetry of the at the tip though. I have some wing tips that aren't symmetric about the chord line. I always thought the ones that were were that way in an effort to reduce the induced drag at the tips. I'll do a bit of digging to see if I can find an answer to that.
 
one more question: which one is better to reduce wingtip vortices??
a winglet, which produces an infinite wing span effect or elliptical distribution, which theoretically would give no pressure differential at the wingtips, so no vortices(only theoretically)!
i guess a winglet would be better because wing would atleast give more lift(provided the wing has a uniform airfoil cross section over the entire span) than tapering it towards the end(thus affecting the lift)
 
Well, I guess it depends on the aircraft and it's operating regime. I would think that since we don't see a whole lot of elliptical tipped wing plans out there these days, that the winglet is the easier to utilize.
 
Side note: The elliptical normal (or elliptical Gaussian) distribution relates to probability theory for many variables. This is what you picked up off of Google. Imagine the normal (Bell shaped curve) but as a surface over two dimensions instead of a curve over one. Depending on the scaling of the two variables you may have a "circular bell" or an "elliptical bell" shaped distribution function. Then generalize to arbitrary dimensions. This is important enough due to the Central Limit Theorem that there will be many references out there on a Google search.

So you may want to try the Google search again with "aerodynamics" added to eliminate this other meaning.
 
jambaugh said:
So you may want to try the Google search again with "aerodynamics" added to eliminate this other meaning.

thanks.. i found out this one
http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Theories_of_Flight/Reducing_Induced_Drag/TH16.htm
 
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