What is the Equilibrium Position of a Pivoting Meter Stick?

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The discussion revolves around determining the equilibrium position of a pivoting meter stick, focusing on the dynamics of rotational motion and the relevant equations of motion. Participants are examining the implications of the pivot point's location and its effect on the stick's behavior.

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  • Participants discuss the moment of inertia and its calculation about the axis of rotation, with references to the center of mass. There are questions regarding the interpretation of variables in the equations, particularly concerning the distance from the center to the pivot point.

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Some participants are providing feedback on the original poster's attempts, suggesting careful review of expressions and clarifying the distinction between angular acceleration and angular frequency. There is an ongoing exploration of the setup and simplification of equations, with no clear consensus yet on the correct approach.

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Homework Statement


A meter stick is free to pivot around a position located a distance x below its top end, where 0 < x < 0.50 m(Figure 1) .

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Your expression for ##I## about the axis of rotation looks correct to me. Although I think I would have just used ##I = I_{cm} + Md^2## with ##I_{cm} = \frac{1}{12} M L^2##.

It appears to me that you have a mistake in the numerator of your expression inside the square root for ##\omega##. Review the general formula for ##\omega## and make sure you are interpreting the symbols correctly.
 
TSny said:
Your expression for ##I## about the axis of rotation looks correct to me. Although I think I would have just used ##I = I_{cm} + Md^2## with ##I_{cm} = \frac{1}{12} M L^2##.

It appears to me that you have a mistake in the numerator of your expression inside the square root for ##\omega##. Review the general formula for ##\omega## and make sure you are interpreting the symbols correctly.
I tried that approach but I failed. Am I annoying?
 

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Hughng said:
I tried that approach but I failed.
It should give the correct answer. If you show your work, we can identify any mistakes. Make sure you are interpreting ##d## correctly. ##d## also occurs in the numerator of ##\omega##.
Am I annoying?
Not at all.
 
TSny said:
It should give the correct answer. If you show your work, we can identify any mistakes. Make sure you are interpreting ##d## correctly. ##d## also occurs in the numerator of ##\omega##.
Not at all.
I think d is the distance from the center to the pivot point which is (1/2 - x)
 
Hughng said:
I think d is the distance from the center to the pivot point which is (1/2 - x)
Yes.
 
TSny said:
Yes.
Can you help me check out my steps please?
 

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You are setting it up correctly, but you need to be more careful with simplifying the expressions. Try it again and take your time.

Also, note that ##\frac {d^2\theta}{dt^2}## is not the correct notation for ##\omega ^2##.
##\frac {d^2\theta}{dt^2}## is the angular acceleration of the rotational motion.
But ##\omega## is the angular frequency of the simple harmonic motion; i.e., ##\omega = \frac{2 \pi}{T}##, where ##T## is the period of the simple harmonic motion.
 
TSny said:
You are setting it up correctly, but you need to be more careful with simplifying the expressions. Try it again and take your time.

Also, note that ##\frac {d^2\theta}{dt^2}## is not the correct notation for ##\omega ^2##.
##\frac {d^2\theta}{dt^2}## is the angular acceleration of the rotational motion.
But ##\omega## is the angular frequency of the simple harmonic motion; i.e., ##\omega = \frac{2 \pi}{T}##, where ##T## is the period of the simple harmonic motion.
Yes I know that. I will take a look tomorrow again for my expression. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Have a good night!
 
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OK. Good luck with it.
 

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