What is the Error Source in SHM Experiment with Floating Cylinder?

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This discussion revolves around an experiment investigating the effect of mass on the period of oscillation in simple harmonic motion (SHM) of a floating cylinder. The original poster describes their experimental setup and the theoretical background related to buoyant force and oscillation equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive relationships between mass and period but notes discrepancies in their experimental results, specifically regarding energy loss and the correlation between mass and the square of the period. Other participants question the completeness of the equations used and suggest considering additional forces at play.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's observations and attempting to clarify concepts related to forces acting on the cylinder. Some guidance has been offered regarding potential sources of energy loss and the interpretation of the data, though multiple interpretations of the results are still being explored.

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The original poster mentions a decrease in amplitude during oscillation, indicating potential energy loss, and questions the proportionality of mass to the square of the period. There is also a reference to a graph that presents the relationship between mass and the square of the period, which has raised further questions about its fit and implications.

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Homework Statement


Investigating the effect of mass on the period of oscillation.

This experiment is about SHM of a floating cylinder, and the theory is explained in this website:
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/64154/shm-of-floating-objects

Also, I'm attaching a diagram of my experimental setup. (x is the displacement of the cylinder under water)

Homework Equations



Buoyant force acting on the cylinder, F=Vρg=Axρg
As Newton's second law states that F=ma, a=-Axρg/m
Since a is directly proportional to -x, this fulfils the condition for SHM.

a=ω^2x, and ω=2∏/T

therefore a=(4∏^2)x/T^2

-Axρg/m=(4∏^2)x/T^2

From the derivation above, it can be concluded that 1/m is directly proportional to 1/T^2, and therefore m is proportional to the square of period.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to perform the above experiment. The cylinder does bob up and down in the water, but it does not perform SHM. First of all, the amplitude keeps decreasing, but I have no idea what is the source of energy loss. Besides, the correlation between m and T^2 is also not directly proportional.

Does anyone have an idea what's the error in this experiment?
 

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While it does not change the period of the oscillation, you forgot the gravitational force on the bob in the equations.
smokedvanilla said:
From the derivation above, it can be concluded that 1/m is directly proportional to 1/T^2, and therefore m is proportional to the square of period.
I agree.
smokedvanilla said:
First of all, the amplitude keeps decreasing, but I have no idea what is the source of energy loss.
You are moving water around all the time. Could this lead to losses?
smokedvanilla said:
Besides, the correlation between m and T^2 is also not directly proportional.
Can you post your data?
 
mfb said:
While it does not change the period of the oscillation, you forgot the gravitational force on the bob in the equations.

Does this mean that the net force acting on the oscillating cylinder is (buoyant force)-(weight of cylinder) or vise versa depending on the direction of its motion? (Which means ma=Fb-mg, is this eqn correct?)

This is the graph of square of period against mass.
 

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smokedvanilla said:
Does this mean that the net force acting on the oscillating cylinder is (buoyant force)-(weight of cylinder) or vise versa depending on the direction of its motion?
Right (and the sign just depends on the definition of "direction of force"). As the weight of the cylinder does not change this is just an offset to the equilibrium position, the derivatives don't change.
smokedvanilla said:
This is the graph of square of period against mass.
The straight line looks like a very nice fit. It has an offset that needs an explanation, but I see where it can come from.
I wonder how you got frequency measurements with that precision.
 
As theweight of the cylinder does not change this is just an offset to the equilibrium position, the derivatives don't change.

I'm sorry I didn't quite get what you meant by this.

As for the graph, I took about 7 measurements (time taken for 3 oscillations) for each mass and calculated the average value. I just realized that it is actually a very nice fit, coz I was too carried away by the fact that it doesn't pass thru the origin..
 

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