What is the Force Acting on an Object Moving at a Constant Rate?

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The problem involves a particle of mass m moving along a path while its speed increases at a constant rate. Participants are tasked with determining the locations where the transverse component of the time rate of change of momentum is greatest and where the net force acting on the particle is smallest.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between tangential and normal components of acceleration and force, questioning how these relate to the particle's motion along a circular path.
  • There is exploration of the implications of constant speed increase and how it affects the net force at different points along the path.
  • Some participants consider the effects of changing radius and speed on centripetal force, particularly at specific locations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying concepts related to normal and tangential forces. There is recognition of the need to compare forces at different points, and some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between speed and centripetal force.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about circular motion and the effects of varying speed on force components. There is mention of a figure that may not be clear, which could impact understanding.

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Homework Statement



http://imgur.com/WeZ2lSS

If the image isn't clear, this is what it states:

The speed of a particle of mass m increases at a constant rate as it moves along the path shown from location 1 to 2 and so on. The particle's speed is much less than c, the speed of light, throughout its motion.

Problem:

At which particle location/locations is the magnitude of the transverse component of the time rate of change of momentum ( mag. of dp / dt, perpendicular) the greatest?

At which location is the magnitude of the net force acting on the particle smallest?

Homework Equations



F = dp/dt and F = mv^2 / r (I think)

The Attempt at a Solution



This question just stumped me during the exam. If the particle was speeding up at a constant rate, there was a constant force applied to it, but I do not understand how it goes tangential after a point and then makes a path with a smaller radius. Also, looking at the figure, since r was small and v was large at positions 3 and 4, I chose option E (3 and 4) for the first part since F perpendicular seemed the greatest there by mv^2/r. I also thought that since the path followed looks circular, the force experienced at 3 and 4 was the same. I do not understand how it could be circular if the speed at 4 was greater than the speed at 3.

For the second part, I picked E (same at all points) since the speed was increasing at a constant rate and I figured this implied constant acceleration.
 
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Guessit said:
f the particle was speeding up at a constant rate, there was a constant force applied to it,
No. All that tells you is that the tangential component of the acceleration is constant in magnitude. The normal component of acceleration does not affect speed.
 
Ahh, that makes a lot more sense. So for problem 1, since they are asking about the normal component of force, would that be the same at points 3 and 4 since the path is circular and the normal component of force would be the same at both points?

And for problem 2, the least force would be at point 2 then since there is only a tangential component for the acceleration whereas at 1,3 and 4, there is also a normal component, and hence net force would be the vector sum of those 2. Is that right?
 
Guessit said:
Ahh, that makes a lot more sense. So for problem 1, since they are asking about the normal component of force, would that be the same at points 3 and 4 since the path is circular and the normal component of force would be the same at both points?

And for problem 2, the least force would be at point 2 then since there is only a tangential component for the acceleration whereas at 1,3 and 4, there is also a normal component, and hence net force would be the vector sum of those 2. Is that right?
compare the centripetal force at 3 with that at 4.
 
mv^2/r ... and v increases, which means there is a greater centripetal force at 4. Whoops! Looks like I messed up on this one :/

Thanks guys!
 

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