What is the force applied by water on a falling sandbag?

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The problem involves a sandbag dropped from a hot-air balloon at an altitude of 315 m, which comes to a stop 4.50 m below the surface of a lake. The question seeks to determine the force applied by the water on the sandbag.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various approaches, including using gravitational force and impulse concepts. Some suggest considering energy transformations and work done on the sandbag by the water.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem, including conservation of energy and impulse. Participants are sharing hints and prompting each other to think critically about the relationships between energy, work, and force.

Contextual Notes

The problem provides specific distances but does not include time variables, which influences the suggested methods of solution.

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Homework Statement


At an altitude of 315 m above a lake, a hot-air balloon pilot drops a 2.50 kg sandbag. If the bag comes to a stop 4.50 m below the surface of the lake, what force was applied by the water on it?

Homework Equations


f=ma, d=df-di


The Attempt at a Solution


im kinda completely lost about what to do for this question, so i tried just multiplying the mass by gravity. i could also try finding displacement , but i don't know what to do after if i did that.
 
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You're on the right track. Here's a hint: what is impulse?
 
uh to act suddenly?
 
Very funny...
Now, what makes a bigger splash? A rock dropped from 1 meter, or from 1 km? Gravity is a constant, right? So then, what could account for the force. I've given you some hints, time for you to do a bit of reading :)
 
If you hold something up at some height in the air. It has a certain type of energy. If you drop it, it turns into another type of energy which is only due to its motion. Work is being done on the sandbag by the water. Do you know an expression for work done on an object? Can you form a relation between the first type of energy and the work done on the object? (Think conservation of energy)
 
rock.freak667 said:
If you hold something up at some height in the air. It has a certain type of energy. If you drop it, it turns into another type of energy which is only due to its motion. Work is being done on the sandbag by the water. Do you know an expression for work done on an object? Can you form a relation between the first type of energy and the work done on the object? (Think conservation of energy)

Yes, you can do it using conservation of energy as well. I personally think doing it the impulse way is easier :)
 
astropi said:
Yes, you can do it using conservation of energy as well. I personally think doing it the impulse way is easier :)

The problem statement tells us the distances, rather than the times, it takes the mass to fall and then come to a stop. That suggests that energy & work is a better way (i.e. more direct and easier) to solve this than using impulses.
 

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