What is the force of the boom on the car at the top of circle?

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The problem involves analyzing the forces acting on a car moving in a vertical circle at the top of the circle. The context includes the radius of the circle, the weight of the car and riders, and the speed of the car at that point.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of centripetal force equations and the relationship between the forces acting on the car at the top of the circle. Questions arise regarding the sign convention used in the calculations and the interpretation of the forces involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the assumptions made in their calculations, and clarifying the relationships between the forces. There is acknowledgment of a potential misunderstanding regarding the direction of forces and the application of the equations.

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There is an emphasis on the choice of positive direction in the calculations, which may affect the interpretation of the results. Participants are navigating through the implications of their assumptions regarding force directions.

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Homework Statement


An amusement ride consists of a car moving in a vertical circle on the end of a rigid boom. The radius of the circle is 10 m. The combined weight of the car and riders is 5.0 kN. At the top of the circle the car has a speed of 5.0 m/s which is not changing at that instant. What is the force of the boom on the car at the top of the circle?

a.3.7 kN (Down)

b.1.3 kN (Down)

c.6.3 kN (Up)

d.3.7 kN (Up)

e.5.2 kN (Down)

Homework Equations


Fc = mv^2/r
Fg = mg = 5000N
m = weight / g = 510kg

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the car is at the top of the circle, I thought it would be
Fc = Fb + Fg
Fc = 510 * (5)^2 / 10 = 1275 N
Fb = Fg - 1275 N = 3725 N
So I thought the answer was 3725 N to the down way, but the answer says it is d which is 3.7kN to the up way.
Can you tell me what I did wrong?
 
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Your Fc=Fb+Fg is correct if you are taking down as positive throughout. But how did that equation become Fb = Fg - 1275N?
 
haruspex said:
Your Fc=Fb+Fg is correct if you are taking down as positive throughout. But how did that equation become Fb = Fg - 1275N?
Oh I'm so dumb haha so since Fb = 1275N - Fg = -3725 N and I picked down as positive, the force is up 3725 N right??
 
gijungkim said:
Oh I'm so dumb haha so since Fb = 1275N - Fg = -3725 N and I picked down as positive, the force is up 3725 N right??
Yes.
 
haruspex said:
Yes.
Thank you so much!
 

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