What is the gravitational force on the 52[kg] mass

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The problem involves calculating the gravitational force acting on a 52 kg mass due to another mass positioned at a specific coordinate. The scenario includes multiple masses and requires consideration of their positions in a two-dimensional space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss separating the gravitational force into components and question the correct method for calculating the y-component of the force. There are suggestions to visualize the problem using graph paper to aid in understanding the distances and components involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of calculating the distance between masses rather than using individual component distances. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the y-component calculation, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of dealing with multiple bodies in gravitational problems and the potential for misunderstanding the application of the gravitational force formula.

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass 52[kg] is at 5.0[m]ˆi a particle of mass 13[kg] is at 12[m]j, and a particle of mass 13[kg] is at −12[m]jˆ. What is the gravitational force on the 52[kg] mass due to the mass at 12[m]jˆ?

answer: −1.0 × 10−10[N]ˆı + 2.5 × 10−10[N]jˆ

Homework Equations


F2on1=Gm1m2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Separated into components...

i component) f2on1=(6.67x10^-11)(52)(13)/5^2
= -1.0x10^-10 this is correct

j component) shouldn't this be solved in the same manner?
f2on1=(6.67x10^-11)(52)(13)/12^2
=3.13x10^-10

What am i missing from solving the y component?
 
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I have little experience with gravity problems dealing with more than two bodies but in this case I think that it might work at least in my case to draw the particle positions on graph paper and proceed to solve for the magnitude of gravity between each body which could then be broken up into horizontal and vertical vector components
 
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Kaura said:
I have little experience with gravity problems dealing with more than two bodies but in this case I think that it might work at least in my case to draw the particle positions on graph paper and proceed to solve for the magnitude of gravity between each body which could then be broken up into horizontal and vertical vector components

This is what i have done :) The y component is giving me a hard time but I have found the x component. j stands for y and i stands for x.
 
The "r" in the gravitational force formula is the distance between the masses. You can't use individual component distances. Just think what would happen, for example, if two masses had the same ##\hat{i}## component but different ##\hat{j}## components. Would the gravitational force in the ##\hat{i}## direction be infinite?

One way to approach the problem is to first calculate the distance between the masses and find the magnitude of the force using the gravitational force formula, then split that into components using the geometry of the situation.

(I see that @Kaura beat me to the punch!)
 
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Great thanks so much guys, @Kaura and @gneill :)

I understand it easily now!
 
heartshapedbox said:
Great thanks so much guys, @Kaura and @gneill :)

I understand it easily now!

Glad to help I found this problem to be very interesting as well
 
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Kaura said:
Glad to help I found this problem to be very interesting as well
Awesome :) Sorry you had correctly told me what to do at the start, but I misunderstood. Thank you :)
 

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