What Is the Group Velocity of a Single Wave?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of group velocity in wave mechanics, specifically analyzing the wave function f(x) = cos(b√ω x - ω t). Participants are exploring the definition and implications of group velocity, particularly in the context of single waves versus wave packets.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the nature of group velocity, with some expressing confusion about its application to a single wave versus a wave packet. There is an exploration of whether the wave function can represent a wave packet if the wavenumber is dependent on frequency.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their interpretations and questioning assumptions about wave functions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions under which a wave function may be considered a wave packet, but no consensus has been reached.

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There is an ongoing debate about the definitions and characteristics of group velocity, particularly in relation to the dependencies of wavenumber on frequency. Participants are navigating the implications of these definitions in the context of their homework assignment.

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Find the group velocity of the wave [tex]f(x) = cos(b\sqrt{\omega}x - \omega t)[/tex]

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What? I thought group velocity was an interference phenomenon...The velocity of the beats produced when two waves with slightly different frequencies interfere. What is meant by the group velocity of one wave?

Anyway, I know that [tex]v_{g} = \frac{d\omega}{dk} = \frac{d(k^{2}/b^{2}}{dk} = 2v[/tex] which is the correct answer. I still don't understand what I've found however...
 
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The group velocity of a wave function is the velocity of which the envelope (or changes in amplitude) propagate through space. And yes, the definition which you quoted above is only valid for wave packets (superposition of two or more waves), but what's to say that your wave function above, does not represent a wave packet?
 
I thought waves written in the form [tex]f(x) = cos(kx - \omega t)[/tex] represents one single wave and that the wave velocity equals the group velocity for such waves. Maybe this does not count when k depends on [tex]\omega[/tex]?
 
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kasse said:
I thought waves written in the form [tex]f(x) = cos(kx - \omega t)[/tex] represents one single wave and that the wave velocity equals the group velocity for such waves. Maybe this does not count when k depends on [tex]\omega[/tex]?
Seems you have figure out yourself :approve:.

If k=k(ω), that is if the [angular] wavenumber is a function of angular frequency or ω = ω(k) then the wavefunction f(x,t) represents a wavepacket rather than an individual wave.
 

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