What is the Growth Rate Constant for Population Growth?

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The discussion revolves around determining the growth rate constant for population growth using exponential equations. Participants are analyzing equations related to population at different times and attempting to isolate the growth rate constant, k.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss methods to find the initial population, p(0), and the growth rate constant, k, by manipulating exponential equations. Some suggest dividing the equations and using logarithms, while others explore setting the equations equal to each other to solve for k.

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There are multiple approaches being explored, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the validity of their results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of equations, but no consensus has been reached on the final values or methods.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the equations provided and are questioning the assumptions made about the values of p(0) and k. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in calculations, but no definitive resolution has been established.

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The Attempt at a Solution


so i know that
p(0)e^2k = 950
p(0)e^8k = 9500

how do i find k?
for p(0) i get 440.950939 is that right?

btw. ignore the answers in the picture
 
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how do you find p(0) without knowing k?

try dividing you 2 equations together, then use logs
 
lanedance said:
how do you find p(0) without knowing k?

try dividing you 2 equations together, then use logs

what i did is made both equations equal to k
so
k1 = [ln(950/p(0))] / 2
k2 = [ln(9500/p(0))] / 8

k1 = k2
[ln(950/p(0))] / 2 = [ln(9500/p(0))] / 8
solving for p(0) i get 440.9509 which let's me plug it in the main equation and get the k value..
but looks like its wrong eh?
 
so dividing the 2 equations gives
[tex]e^{6k} = 10[/tex]

can you solve for k?

you should get some constant a such that
[tex]k = \frac{1}{a} ln(10)[/tex]

the equation then becomes
[tex]p(t) = p(0).e^{kt} = p(0).e^{(t/a) ln(10)} = p(0).e^{ln(10^{t/a}} = p(0) .10^{t/a}[/tex]
[tex]p(0) = p(2).10^{-2/a}[/tex]

which gives me the same p(0) value as you, so your way was fine
 
lanedance said:
so dividing the 2 equations gives
[tex]e^{6k} = 10[/tex]

can you solve for k?

you should get some constant a such that
[tex]k = \frac{1}{a} ln(10)[/tex]

the equation then becomes
[tex]p(t) = p(0).e^{kt} = p(0).e^{(t/a) ln(10)} = p(0).e^{ln(10^{t/a}} = p(0) .10^{t/a}[/tex]
[tex]p(0) = p(2).10^{-2/a}[/tex]

which gives me the same p(0) value as you, so your way was fine

oh so i just did it the long way... kk that makes sense.
now how do i find the growth rate after 5 hours?
k = 0.38376418 so growth rate = 38.376%
 
i would take the growth rate to mean p'(t)
 
lanedance said:
i would take the growth rate to mean p'(t)

oh i got it! tnx man
 
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