What is the impact of long-term storage on sealed lead acid batteries?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the impact of long-term storage on sealed lead acid batteries, particularly those manufactured five years ago. Participants explore the potential condition of these batteries, the effects of storage duration, and the implications of purchasing them at a discounted price.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the damage caused by long storage of sealed lead acid batteries that have been untouched for five years.
  • Another participant warns that if the batteries have been allowed to discharge completely, they may suffer from sulfation, rendering them nearly useless.
  • It is suggested that if the batteries retained more than 30% charge or received occasional trickle charging, they might still be in good condition.
  • A later reply calculates that, assuming an optimistic self-discharge rate, the batteries could have around 16% charge left after five years, but questions whether the self-discharge rate remains constant.
  • Concerns are raised about the temperature conditions during storage potentially affecting the battery's charge retention.
  • There is mention of a recovery method for sulfated batteries through heavy bench charging, although its effectiveness is not confirmed.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of having a specific need for the battery, cautioning against purchasing it solely based on price, sharing a personal anecdote about overbuying perishable items.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the condition and viability of the batteries after long-term storage, with no consensus on whether they are a good purchase. Concerns about sulfation and the importance of having a practical use for the batteries are highlighted, but differing views on the implications of the storage conditions remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss assumptions regarding the self-discharge rate and the potential for recovery from sulfation, but these aspects are not fully resolved. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the actual condition of the batteries due to their storage history.

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I am offered Sealed Lead acid batteries at heavy discount (half the price) at local Sale. But they were manufactured some 5 years back.
How much damage does long storage do to them?
They have never been touched. Just bought 5 years back, and stored.
 
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Be careful, if they've been allowed to go flat then they may be good for nothing but scrap metal. When lead acid batteries are allowed to sit in a discharged state the electrodes "sulphate up" and they're rarely of much good for anything afterwards.

If however they've retained more than about 30% charge (or have had a trickle charge every now and then) then they could be in good condition. Without any more details it could be a bit of a lottery.
 
That is good info, I have no idea.
 
uart said:
Be careful, if they've been allowed to go flat then they may be good for nothing but scrap metal. When lead acid batteries are allowed to sit in a discharged state the electrodes "sulphate up" and they're rarely of much good for anything afterwards.

If however they've retained more than about 30% charge (or have had a trickle charge every now and then) then they could be in good condition. Without any more details it could be a bit of a lottery.

They are still in their seal. Never Touched, so never trickle charged or anything.
Assuming, initially fully charged at manufacture and most optimistic self-Discharge of 3% per month, the charge left after 5 years is 0.97^(5*12) = 0.16 = 16%.
Because the battery were stored in not so good temperature, it should have much lower charge than that.
(But do self-Discharge rate remain the same or they acceleratre/deccelerate?)

Anyway, I now think they aren't the best bet.
But, I have heard somewhere that you can recover from sulphation by heavy bench charging or the like.

Also, the sale has been open for an year now, and rumor has been around that those who purchased the battery at the beginning are pretty happy with it till now. However I doubt that they don't have enough knowledge to decide whether the battery works as per its nameplate rating.
Actually they are selling at 1/3 rd the market price.
 
Well the non electronics side is whether you have any need of one? Can you find one that fit into your car? If not, I won't get it. You are looking at the price, but if you don't have particular immediately use of it, it will be sitting for another few years and you'll be selling it at 10 years old and that would be bad!

Don't just look at the price that you cannot refuse. AND this is not from knowledge of electronics....This is learned from my wife and my own mistake:bugeye:. I used to love Smucker's orange and Strawberry preserve. Two years ago they had a big sale for $2 each and was a very very good price. I bought like 30 of each. I ate, and I ate and I ate...and ate! Till the point I was so sick and tired of them! I still have like 25 bottles, they just pass the expiration date!:cry: Only stock up on stuffs that has no expiration date.

The lesson learned is only get what you need plus one if you have use of it.
 

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