What is the importance of 'out of this world' discussions

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The discussion revolves around the relevance and importance of exploring theoretical concepts in physics, particularly those that may seem 'out of this world,' such as the nature of the universe and theories like the Big Bang and string theory. Participants consider how these ideas relate to practical applications and their significance in understanding the universe and humanity.

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  • Some participants suggest that curiosity drives the exploration of theoretical concepts, even if they seem irrelevant to everyday life.
  • Others argue that theories like the Big Bang and quantum theory provide tools for scientists to better understand the universe and human existence.
  • A participant highlights that while the Big Bang theory has its limitations, it still contributes to our understanding of the universe.
  • Some express skepticism about the practical relevance of such theories, preferring tangible inventions over abstract concepts.
  • There is mention of historical examples where scientific exploration led to technological advancements, such as the development of the internet from particle physics research.

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Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement. While some acknowledge the importance of theoretical exploration for scientific understanding, others question its practical relevance, indicating a lack of consensus on the utility of such discussions.

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Participants express varying degrees of skepticism regarding the completeness of current scientific models, particularly the Big Bang theory, and highlight the ongoing nature of scientific inquiry.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals curious about the philosophical implications of scientific theories, students of physics and mathematics, and those interested in the relationship between theoretical exploration and practical applications in technology.

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Hello everyone,

Usually, I think a lot about topics like, what's beyond our observable universe?, or could there be something inside an atom?, I have tried to understand string theory.

But, when I told some of my ideas about the universe to my physics lecturer, he asked me to think about something which is more useful and relavent to the world today.

That's why I wanted to know, how is thinking about topics like 'what's outside the universe', useful and relavent to the world today?

It would be helpful if I get the answer as quickly as possible. Thankyou.
 
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It depends how do you define your universe. :-)

If a universe is all that exists, there cannot be anything outside it.
 
First of all thankyou for the reply,
But, actually what i meant by my question was,

For example, the big bang theory gave us an idea on how the universe was born. But this type of an idea is different from the type of idea (for example:- an invention of something like a car) which helped the human race practicall. In the same way how does theories like the big bang theory etc help the human race practically. How is it relavent to the world today?
 
Hi,

Its all out of curiosity! Are'nt you curious to know how the Universe began? It might not be of much relevence to the general public, but in the hands of scientists, it can be used as a tool to understand the universe better, our Earth better and infact even understand the very concept on human race, better.

Studying these concepts answers many questions, pertaining to science, that otherwise could have never been answered. Theories like the Quantum Theory and String Theory, help us to understand the working of the universe, and compare it with the working of an atom, etc.

Lets take the example of a quantum computer, in order to create one, we need to understand the quantum theory. Quantum Computers, are faster than the fastest supercomputers by 10,000 times! I am sure you'd want one in the future.

Every "Out of the world" theories have their applications, in places where you would never expect them to. Hence, its not that these theories do not have any relevance, infact they explain the very existence of mankind, and can even help us predict the future. Thats how we came up with the Big Crunch theory!

Anyway, enjoy science, appreciate the beauty of the Universe, and celebrate every moment of your life, by simply asking questions:)

regards,
math_way
 
I guess curiosity should be your driving force behind learning maths and physics.

I must emphasize that even the big bang model has holes in it, our picture of the universe is always incomplete and my hunch is that it will always be as such.

Does it help me to know that everything started with a bang, not really, I can concieve a lot of other possible ways for the universe to begin, a car with a chauffeur will help me a lot more.

But people who get into science don't really care about what's practical, we want to find the truth.
Engineers on the other hand will apply your science eventually (hopefully).

That said, every now and then big experiments lead to some ingenuity in technology, take the internet as one of them, this was developed by a cern physicist (the WWW) to communicate fastly information, and see how we benefited from this.
 
Thanks a lot for the reply.

i was really expecting for such an answer. Now as i got a satisfactory reason, i can confidently ask more and more questions.

Once again, Thankyou
 
math_way said:
Hi,

Its all out of curiosity! Are'nt you curious to know how the Universe began? It might not be of much relevence to the general public, but in the hands of scientists, it can be used as a tool to understand the universe better, our Earth better and infact even understand the very concept on human race, better.

Studying these concepts answers many questions, pertaining to science, that otherwise could have never been answered. Theories like the Quantum Theory and String Theory, help us to understand the working of the universe, and compare it with the working of an atom, etc.

Lets take the example of a quantum computer, in order to create one, we need to understand the quantum theory. Quantum Computers, are faster than the fastest supercomputers by 10,000 times! I am sure you'd want one in the future.

Every "Out of the world" theories have their applications, in places where you would never expect them to. Hence, its not that these theories do not have any relevance, infact they explain the very existence of mankind, and can even help us predict the future. Thats how we came up with the Big Crunch theory!

Anyway, enjoy science, appreciate the beauty of the Universe, and celebrate every moment of your life, by simply asking questions:)

regards,
math_way

What a nice response, math_way. Thanks for that sentiment.
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
I guess curiosity should be your driving force behind learning maths and physics.

I must emphasize that even the big bang model has holes in it, our picture of the universe is always incomplete and my hunch is that it will always be as such.

Does it help me to know that everything started with a bang, not really, I can concieve a lot of other possible ways for the universe to begin, a car with a chauffeur will help me a lot more.

But people who get into science don't really care about what's practical, we want to find the truth.
Engineers on the other hand will apply your science eventually (hopefully).

That said, every now and then big experiments lead to some ingenuity in technology, take the internet as one of them, this was developed by a cern physicist (the WWW) to communicate fastly information, and see how we benefited from this.

Another wonderful response, MathematicalPhysicist.
 
Thank you bobc2! Its my pleasure!:)
 

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